Posts made by Auspice

So does this mean if I'm in a position of ic leadership and the 'rulebreaker' archetypes are around I can demand they never do any of that because it is super not fun for me to deal with?

Or do I let them play their character, suck it up and deal with the fact that it is fucking miserable to have Jack the Rebel run off against orders in every single scene because fine. That's 'his fun.' and then hope he actually can live up to his word (because every person like this I have personally witnessed insists they like consequences and fallout) of dealing with the repercussions?

We've had discussions here about how unfun these types are. Part of why is because they want to evade all responsibility for their actions.

This is coming back to a point I've asked before and never gotten a clear answer on: whose fun is more important? Do people playing leader PCs just have to give up on their enjoyment being considered as the 'price' they pay for being a leader?

Or should people be expected to actually deal with the fall out of their actions? Because yes, even if it's 'off camera' people will complain because 'I don't want to have to rp that my character got in trouble!' I've tried that before. They got an @mail about okay here's what would have happened and here's your PCs punishment (which was in that case literally just a change in who they partnered with and the open end that they could work towards having their original partner back)..... It resulted in complaints to staff (who did shrug it off but not without a lot of drama) of 'my character never makes mistakes! I'm being targeted for no reason!'

So yeah. The idea of someone being able to play a rebel and rule breaker but refuse any fallout because 'my character never looks bad' is bullshit imo.

@Sunny said in Consent in Gaming:

@faraday said in Consent in Gaming:

We're here to tell stories and roleplay. Generally speaking that means actually playing the scenes. It's one thing to avoid a torture scene because torture makes people squicky. But somebody 'nope-ing' out of a "get yelled at by the commander" scene just because it was ICly embarrassing is cheapening the reason why the FTB option exists. I'd still honor the request, but I think it would lower my opinion of that player considerably.

I do not understand. Why would it lower your opinion of them?

ETA: I know this could sound confrontational but I REALLY don't mean it that way, I seriously am reading this and not comprehending why and hoping it can be explained so I do understand.

I'm in agreement with Faraday.

She plays a lot of military themed games, same as I do. And there are absolutely people who want to play the rule breaker, the problematic soldier, etc..... which is a headache for their ic superiors and often other players in general.

If you purposefully choose to play that type and then want to nope out of the consequences? It's pretty shitty. And unfortunately pretty common.

@SG said in Space Sim w/Economy:

@Paradox said in Space Sim w/Economy:

So let me ask, what are people really interested in:

1. The time sink of cruising from Point A to Point B to kill time

2. Something to do BESIDES RP that requires some planning/scheming to try to maximize benefits.

I guess why I'm asking this, is because if it's #2, you don't really need an 'advanced space system' to accomplish that, you just need a clever mini-game to do it.

The time sink of cruising from A to B is terrible. Space systems where you have to spam your own screen every few seconds are the worst. I think ideally, space would just be a set of rooms that you can move your ship through. Maybe ships have a set number of rooms they can do per fuel tank? I dunno, but I hate most of the space systems out there already that aren't as easy as moving your bit to another room.

On the other hand... I love them. :X

@Apos said in Consent in Gaming:

I also worry that we can easily forget how petty people can be, and how much they really want to see their 'enemies' on games get what is coming to them. An awful lot of people want their opponents to RP out scenes uncomfortable for them.

I worry your numbers here are skewed due to how large your playerbase has been at times.

There are people I don't like, that I wouldn't want to RP with, but I wouldn't ever put any of them through this and I feel pretty confident in saying none of them would do it in return.

The list of people I know that behave this way would, a) ignore any rules put into place and try to bully the other people into it, and b) are banned on most games (Juerg, Custodius, etc.) because of these behaviors.

I really, really do not think it's 'an awful lot' of people. I think it is a very very small subset that loves to ban evade and gets smacked down every time they do.

@Ghost said in Should Rinel become smol birb?:

I made a thread that was so spicy it got locked. IN THE HOG PIT.

+50,000

do we expect any less from Rinel? From what I read in ArxThreadLand that seems par for the course

@Rinel

legit I found this when looking for PBs for my Ithir char and had desperately wished she had a sword instead. PB pic I ended up using is lighter than I'd like but it's hard finding that right balance of darker skin + a sword + something mystic-y + clearly a pirate.

@Paradox said in Space Sim w/Economy:

I guess why I'm asking this, is because if it's #2, you don't really need an 'advanced space system' to accomplish that, you just need a clever mini-game to do it.

So the reason I'm with @Jennkryst on 'both' is a story from WNOHGB.

I had terrible insomnia as a teenager. There wasn't really much RP to be had. That's part of why I got so into the whole trading game.

Now, it did take literal hours on that game to get places. But I decided one day... to start cutting across a sliver of Romulan space. Doing so saved me like, 2 hours. That's a savings on fuel and maximizes profit across the board. Just one little sliver of the RSE. No one noticed. My ship was a blip on someone's radar and it was a ship that could go toe-to-toe with almost anything Starfleet had. (pro tip: always ask staff if you can salvage a random ship you see sitting dead in space in the same spot for a couple weeks straight. It might turn out to be the most powerful fucking non-Starfleet ship on the game.... with a good warp and great cargo capacity to boot.)

Well, one Staffer noticed. They noticed and brought out the NPCs.

On my next trip through that sliver of RSE space, I run into the Romulans. Who, before I can get my shields up, transport me off my ship (leaving my compatriots to wake up in the morning and find it just sort of chillin' right outside the RSE). They haul my PC to jail.

Well, on this game, the rule was: intent doesn't matter. Code does. If your shields are up they'd better be codedly up. And in my case, the next day I'm chatting with my company on channel and discover.......... the Staffer forgot to lock the cell.

My friends goad me on.
'That means it isn't actually locked!'
'Dude you should totally escape.'

So I did.
I ran out of the prison and straight to the spaceport. Grab the first ship I see.
THE PRINCE'S PERSONAL SHIP.

Staffer, by the time I'm taking off, notices.
I get transported off again and this time, the ship is blown up. (All the more crimes to put on her poor head.)

whoops.gif

Tossed back in jail, this time with it locked.
Two weeks pass (so almost 2 months IC in 4:1 time) and the Staffer goes alrighty, so here's what happened: they let you go. But only after embedding a chip in your brain that records everything your character sees and hears. CONGRATS. You're now a spy.
ps if anyone ever digs around in her head the chip comes up as just a weird dream about a polar bear and a fish.

tl;dr
9 times out of 10 I just want the mini game to kill time, but that 1 time can be fucking epic.

@Rinel said in Should Rinel become smol birb?:

ALSO

@Auspice said in Should Rinel become smol birb?:

Because not all of us play on Arx

IT'S NOT MY JOB TO FIX YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS PEOPLE THERE'S A SIMPLE SOLUTION HERE

there is.

embrace your future as smol birb

@Ominous said in Space Sim w/Economy:

@Jennkryst

I have avoided most sci-fi MUs, so I am not sure exactly how it works, but, while all of this interests me in the same way as Elite Dangerous and Eve Online do, what does one do while waiting to get from point A to point B? MUs tend to be oriented to RP, so what happens if the person you want to RP with is a few star systems over?

RP?

I want something to do while doing other stuff. >.>

@Ghost said in General Video Game Thread:

RIP Anthem.

7 months.

You had so much potential

Yeah in the way a souffle recipe has potential, but we all know I'mma fuck it all up anyway if I try to make one.

@saosmash said in Should Rinel become smol birb?:

Rinel should be whatever she wants!

push over tree

whatever she wants that's named 'smol birb'

Because not all of us play on Arx and @Rinel loves a good silly-time post.

@Lisse24 said in Random links:

@Auspice This is always my favorite:
More adventures in replying to spam.

Yeah, I ended up watching both his 'adventures in spam' talks too. But the ducks... the ducks always get me so much.

-Okay okay no more tiny ducks.
Audience laughs.
-'I'll be honest, you all saw the loophole a lot faster than she did.'

@Darren said in Space Sim w/Economy:

If I thought people might actually play on it, I would dust off the code for my unfinished original sci-fi Evennia based game and start work on it again. Maybe restart it with a Star Wars theme since original sci-fi settings seem to be the kiss of death for MU*s.

Dude, I was just talking to @Paradox yesterday about all the ideas we've both had about using Evennia to build a space-sim game. But neither of us have the capability code-wise (that is a HUGE undertaking) to make it happen (and, I mean, we're having a great time running SGM).

I would support you 100% in doing this.

@gryphter said in The Work Thread:

We use Vizio for flow charts to lay out workflows for our vendor entity. That's about the whole of my 'advice', as I just deliver these, I don't build them.

I'm going to have a whole section of flowcharts (as reference material) in the final deliverable and I honestly don't know where to begin with developing any. I think this is an area where being so ADHD works against me.

Does anyone have experience with making flowcharts?

If so: how did you learn? Do you have any recommended resources?

We have to talk about the ducks

Every so often I just have to go back and watch this.