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Also, if you have any other crossover ideas, definitely mention them.

@Songtress said:

Let's go with option one. Their tech keeps them from total elimination and subjugation. But outside the Bible of tech or small domain points it begins to degrade as magical elements begin to work to muck up the works.

Awesome.

And have you considered the ideas regarding Arendelle and Corona owning chunks of Not-Africa, and having Not-Afrika Korps/Corona Not-African Rifle armies?

A few notes on the Greater Arendelle Reich's concept of the Not-Afrika Korps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-zYI2gzFNs

This video - which could be, with a few contextual changes, used as a Leni Riefenstahl-esque 'Triumph of the Will' propaganda film for the Greater Arendelle Reich's Not-Afrika Korps - is somewhat stylistically similar to what I'm getting at, inasmuch as the 'battalion of black men and black women wearing threatening, vaguely Fascistic uniforms, boots crashing on the ground in a goose-step like manner, and raising their arms in a vaguely Nazi salute' theme that the Reich's Not-Afrika Korps should display.

It is exactly as jarring and unexpected as you might expect it to be. You really just would not expect black people to wear fascist gear and goose-step threateningly. If it seems discordant and unfitting, that is exactly how it should be.

Change their uniforms to black, replace Katniss with Kanzlerin Elsa (and Katniss already bears an uncanny similarity to the Kanzlerin, what with her vaguely fascistic red uniform and threatening black cloak, not to mention their facial similarities, as far as their plump lips and round faces go), and you have yourself the concept I'm attempting to convey to you.

Even the music - ominous female vocals with brassy warhorns and deep-voiced war drums - is suitable for the Greater Arendelle Reich's Not-Afrika Korps.

As I said, this could easily be an in-universe Propaganda Video for Kanzlerin Elsa's Not-Afrika Korps, the strong, terrifying Right Hand of the Reich, comprised entirely of powerful, elite black soldiers from Not-Afrika.

It would require more tanks, though, being as the real-world Afrika Korps possessed a mighty force of armored vehicles.

There should also be a black female general who commands the Not-Afrika Korps - an equivalent to Erwin Rommel. Instead of the Desert Fox, she should be called the Desert Wildcat. I invite you to choose her as your inaugural character, should you be willing to answer the call.

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The Big Hero 6-styled Dai Nipponali Teikoku (Great Nipponali Empire), meanwhile, should be like this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hd9sz4PSdA

Think lots of technologically-enhanced Yari Ashigaru male soldiers, Robo-samurai girls like Gogo Tamago, robots, transformers, and so on.

Even then, they will be hard-pressed to defend themselves against magical enemies, as you said.

As for the problem of the Big Hero 6 people being too high tech - I had two ideas:

1.) They are non-magical and their technology keeps them from being totally obliterated by magic users, or...

2.) In this alternate universe, they have technology equal to the Japanese Empire's own, which is to say, not much. Steam ships and bullet-shooting rifles replace the robots and laser pew pew guns.

@Songtress said:

Not sure about the Nilponali (Nilponali cali without the c) it's too high tech for this world. Even if you were to scale it away down. Perhaps just Corona, Arrendelle and leave the rest of the map.... Blank ish like there are other countries but not too much info. Though we definately need to Emphasise that both Arrendelle and Corona have populations of non white looking people and its not weird ( as some who plays black characters because she I black this is one of those weird moments of wtf when I suddenly realize that I have no space for people like me. So ( theoretical animal shifters from Not Africa?}

Not to worry: being a black man, myself, I had no intention of leaving us out.

The real German Reich had a division called the Afrika Korps. Also Germany had possessions in Africa.

I know that the real-world Afrika Korps were not literally made of black people, but in The Greatest Frozen Generation, their army's Not-Afrika Korps could be a subdivision of black people.

Also, The Greater Arendelle Reich could own Crown Properties in Not-Africa, as does the Corona Monarchy.

The Corona Monarchy could have something like the British Empire's King's African Rifles - which were actually made up entirely of black people in real life.

@Songtress said:

Good choices.
I would say that don't make it too world War II analogus only because we want people to be real people not good or evil because the are on the Axis or Allies labeled sides.

Maybe make Corona a kind of puppet ish kingdom of Arrendelle? Like they keep their heads of states (HoS) and the traditions and Arrendelle doesn't freeze them into a Colony.

The dragons I like. Dragons are probably influenced when young to be ice or fire & crews are kinda bound to a dragon because without how do you control a creature? I like the idea of metal armor for them.

Okay! And what about the Big Hero 6 faction\country or so on? Are you interested in their being a part of the story, and if so, what should they do?

@Songtress said:

If this Greases the Frozen Generation wheel and this sgame happens can we have:

1. an eternal winter where Kanzerlin Elsa reins over Arrendelle with a winter fist trying to build up her army of Magically enhanced people.?

I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I think that this version of Arendelle should be called the Greater Arendelle Reich.

@Songtress said:

2. The resistance needs to be called "THE summerlands" or maybe The Kindling" something heart themed trying to breed their own population of magical people with healing and fire powers, and greening {photosensitive (light control) / plant growth?} ( where the Kanzerlin's people are say water/ice and lightening,air ). Ok now I need to sketch this out.

This gave me an excellent idea. Remember the Allied B-17 Flying Fortresses?

I don't know if you've ever read the books His Majesty's Dragon, but you gave me an idea: the resistance folk you mentioned should have an Air Force, wherein they fly Fire Dragons the way the real-world Allies flew B-17 Bombers. Each dragon would be approximately the same size as a B-17 or a B-29, anyway, and it would be 'crewed' by a group of people.

It could even be a partially-mechanical mish-mash of metal armor and cabins to keep the crew safe while the dragon flies. The resistance movement could either magically fuse the metal parts onto the dragon, or they could just strap it on. It's up to you.

@Songtress said:

Could we not merge the two?
The upper crust being the Supernatural Lords and Ladies (I love that concept)
And have a kind sub game of the Greatest Generation happening as well.

I mean it makes sense in a Dishonored kind d of way. Gifted rooms and palaces carefully manicured against rabble and rebel alike.

So all the silly stuff can happen at palacitial mountain Estates away from the main city in a sense u til Rebels climb the walls and remove the blinders. Calling for Blood and Fire! THE RETURN OF THE Spring Queen! ( Ana?)

This is a good idea, and not at all dissimilar to what The Greatest Frozen Generation would have been like, anyway, because I wanted to explore things like these - the difference between the Nobles and the Commanders in the conflict, most of whom are far removed from the battlefront, and the grunts who live in squalor and horror in the teeth of the front.

@Songtress said:

Ting in the Whole Frozen / Tangled theory for more Lords and Ladies:Corona (Rapunzel's kingdom with Raps and Eugene/Flynn as heirs and the king and Queen of Corona in the Arrendelle)

Well, Thenomain already kinda suggested this; he said we should tie-in other Disney movies, so I was gonna do this anyway.

Here's a thought: we could include the Big Hero 6 universe as a stand-in for the Japanese Empire, since we're imitating World War 2.

So, the Frozen Winter Axis forces, made up of the Greater Arendelle Reich, the Imperial Big Hero 6 Empire (I'm not sure what to call the 'Big Hero 6' country. Japanifornia? Nippon-Cali? Maybe you have an idea), against the Summer Allies.

Also, whose side should Corona be on? The Summer Allies, or the Winter Axis?

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I am still likely to make a Plain Arendelle game because I really want to make a game that is similar to an old-school mu*, inasmuch as it is just lots of harmless fun.

@Songtress said:

If this Greases the Frozen Generation wheel and this sgame happens can we have:

1. an eternal winter where Kanzerlin Elsa reins over Arrendelle with a winter fist trying to build up her army of Magically enhanced people.?

2. The resistance needs to be called "THE summerlands" or maybe The Kindling" something heart themed trying to breed their own population of magical people with healing and fire powers, and greening {photosensitive (light control) / plant growth?} ( where the Kanzerlin's people are say water/ice and lightening,air ). Ok now I need to sketch this out.

Now reading this back it reads like really bad ATLA fanatic with a mold sheen of frozen over top.

Certainly! I was buggered for ideas as to what the Greatest Frozen Generation should be about, anyway, because "There are Nazis in Arendelle" does not make for a good story. There has to be an actual story behind the Nazi Arendelle Invasion, and your points are good starters. Feel free to keep sketching it out; I may just put you in charge of running plots to keep people engaged.

For the moment I am devoting my energy to the Normal Frozenverse game, anyway, because it's going to be a lot of fun, actually! It will be lighthearted, fun, and pleasant to play on; no abject seriousness, no grimdarque nonsense, no posturing.

It'll be a real retro-style throwback to the old-school MU*s where silly stuff happened all the time, and we all had funny stories to tell. You're gonna love it, guaranteed.

You'll get to play in a totally accurate 1:1 replication of Arendelle.

It will also, as I mentioned, be a gentle wink and a nod at the Super Cereal Lords and Ladies games (Firan, Kushiel, Blood of Dragons), inasmuch as you can play a Pretty Princess or a Handsome Lord, except that we are aware that it isn't Serious Business.

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I got the idea of opening TWO Frozen games from the state of play with the My Little Pony games out right now - there is one game that is for kids, and one game that is grim and dark as hell. There are other MLP MU*s, but those two gave me the prime idea.

@TNP said:

It's really no different than WORA (or the internet in general) is/was. It's just a game. It's just a message forum. It's just the internet. It's just fill in the blank because it's not "real life".

People don't care how they present themselves. It's fine to come off as illiterate. It's fine to come off as a troll. They don't care that this is the only impression others can base their opinion of them on because they don't care about those people. They're not "real".

So come off as someone who failed third grade? As someone who's a bully and/or a total jackass? Whatever dude.

That's true, but then, how does one explain people like ES and HR, who met on the Interbutt and got married?

This conversation reminds me of an anime I was watching called Black Jack. Basically, in one episode, this kid makes friends with another kid on the Internet; they meet in real life and become Best Friends Forever, and they cry and hug each other and so on. Black Jack isn't involved in this episode that much, but he is greatly moved by all this Power of Friendship, and he remarks how much he wishes HE had a friend. (So do we all, Jacky boy. So do we all.)

Now, in real life, the other kid would have most likely been a fat old pervert, I know. That's part of the reason why I couldn't take that episode seriously at all; the Internet usually does not work that way. There are exceptions to the rule, but I am much of your opinion where this is concerned.

Also, the kid's mom actually encourages him to meet his internet friend! Worst. Parent. Ever, as Comic Book Guy would say.

On a deeper note, why, then, do people mourn other people who die in real life, that they have only known on the Internet?

What I'm trying to say is that the Internet is a fake game with fake people...up to a certain point, a Liminal Zone, if you will, where the unreal becomes deeply real and has real-life repercussions.

Don't ask me how that works; I'm as confused as you are.

@ThatOneDude said:

@Cirno said:

@Arkandel said:

@Cirno said:

I...I'm confused. Help.

It's because they don't care for or respect the medium they are posting in.

Mind you, I'm not trying to justify the practice but I've (at times snidely, I must admit) corrected people's rouges and of course the obligatory your/you're antics on WoW only to have them grumble back something about this being only a game and obviously who cares about grammar, spelling or for that matter, manners?

I do the same thing, man. Brofist. Try to imagine I am bumping my fist against yours. ?)

I had to do this with a man who was a Senior Administrator at a Hospital and it gave me depression to imagine that this chucklefuck gets to decide how people live and die...and I don't.

My excellent parsing of the English language certainly impresses all the Asian women on this dating website I'm on, but that doesn't make me feel good.

It just makes me feel like that guy from Napoleon Dynamite, Kip, or whatever.

"Yeah, whatever, fags, I'm, like, totally talking to this many hot Asian women right now, over the Internet."

DUDE!

That is me.

I am Kip.

Someone please kill me. I never wanted my life to be this way.

@Arkandel said:

@Cirno said:

I...I'm confused. Help.

It's because they don't care for or respect the medium they are posting in.

Mind you, I'm not trying to justify the practice but I've (at times snidely, I must admit) corrected people's rouges and of course the obligatory your/you're antics on WoW only to have them grumble back something about this being only a game and obviously who cares about grammar, spelling or for that matter, manners?

I do the same thing, man. Brofist. Try to imagine I am bumping my fist against yours. /)

I had to do this with a man who was a Senior Administrator at a Hospital and it gave me depression to imagine that this chucklefuck gets to decide how people live and die...and I don't.

My excellent parsing of the English language certainly impresses all the Asian women on this dating website I'm on, but that doesn't make me feel good.

It just makes me feel like that guy from Napoleon Dynamite, Kip, or whatever.

"Yeah, whatever, fags, I'm, like, totally talking to this many hot Asian women right now, over the Internet."

@ThatOneDude said:

@Cirno

@Cirno said:

So, check this out. I'm a Cirno about to tell a cool story, bruhs and bruh-ettes.

Maybe you've wondered about this.

When people include information about their place of employment in their Facebook Profile, Facebook then appends a neat little note to their username, detailing their job.

Now, I see some people who express themselves in garbled, awful English, with terrible grammatical syntax, (I am not an English Professor, but still, after reading a good deal of books, I have a very good idea of what a sentence should look like, and their sentences do not look like that at all, nor do they resemble any of the practice sentences in the manuals of writing the English language I've read) missing punctuation, no capitals (or too many capitals), and so on.

Maybe you've seen this in Facebook postings, too.

Inevitably, I find that these same people have job titles such as "Manager at Really Big Corporation" or "Chief Executive Officer of Prestigious Business, Inc", or "Software Engineer at Microsoft".

I'm not making this up. I'll start taking screenshots and documenting this phenomenon, if anyone harbors any doubts.

How...how the fuck does that work? I mean, I'm a nobody who does a very basic job, and expressing myself in English that is easy on the eyes comes naturally to me.

It's not like I need to pore over a stack of dictionaries, a Thesaurus, and four manuals of style for an hour before producing my posts, either. Anyone who has MU*d with me or had a live chat with me will attest to this fact.

Are these people really that stupid?

Do they not care? How can they not care?

Have we been wrong all this time, and you can just type like a retard on the Internet, while being a genius business manager or a software engineer? Because (and I've been on the Internet for nearly two decades, now) expressing yourself in legible, properly parsed English has always been a mark of intelligence, to the best of my knowledge.

Can you just get these jobs while being a retard? Have I grossly overestimated the amount of intelligence you require to be an exec or a software engineer?

I...I'm confused. Help.

It's the internet, it isn't real communication, #BlameItOnTwitter

Oh Christ, it all comes back to Twitter. I was right, that thing is the worst thing to have happened to the Internet.

This turns everything - EVERYTHING - people used to say on the early days of the Internet totally on its head.

I recall when people would automatically dismiss you entirely if you were incapable of expressing yourself through properly parsed English. I'm sure you do, too.

I'm also remembering the people on MU*s who would not even deign to read anything anyone sent them unless it was properly parsed. Perhaps you've seen them - the ones with things in their +finger info to the effect of "I ONLY SPEAK TO PEOPLE WITH A GOOD GRASP OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE; IF YOU CANNOT MANAGE THIS I WILL IGNORE YOU AND BLOCK YOU".

Fuck, dude, I can't handle this New Internet.

EDIT: FWIW, at least people on dating websites and MU*s are impressed by my command of the English language...and that's about as good as nothing, I guess.

So, check this out. I'm a Cirno about to tell a cool story, bruhs and bruh-ettes.

Maybe you've wondered about this.

When people include information about their place of employment in their Facebook Profile, Facebook then appends a neat little note to their username, detailing their job.

Now, I see some people who express themselves in garbled, awful English, with terrible grammatical syntax, (I am not an English Professor, but still, after reading a good deal of books, I have a very good idea of what a sentence should look like, and their sentences do not look like that at all, nor do they resemble any of the practice sentences in the manuals of writing the English language I've read) missing punctuation, no capitals (or too many capitals), and so on.

Maybe you've seen this in Facebook postings, too.

Inevitably, I find that these same people have job titles such as "Manager at Really Big Corporation" or "Chief Executive Officer of Prestigious Business, Inc", or "Software Engineer at Microsoft".

I'm not making this up. I'll start taking screenshots and documenting this phenomenon, if anyone harbors any doubts.

How...how the fuck does that work? I mean, I'm a nobody who does a very basic job, and expressing myself in English that is easy on the eyes comes naturally to me.

It's not like I need to pore over a stack of dictionaries, a Thesaurus, and four manuals of style for an hour before producing my posts, either. Anyone who has MU*d with me or had a live chat with me will attest to this fact.

Are these people really that stupid?

Do they not care? How can they not care?

Have we been wrong all this time, and you can just type like a retard on the Internet, while being a genius business manager or a software engineer? Because (and I've been on the Internet for nearly two decades, now) expressing yourself in legible, properly parsed English has always been a mark of intelligence, to the best of my knowledge.

Can you just get these jobs while being a retard? Have I grossly overestimated the amount of intelligence you require to be an exec or a software engineer?

I...I'm confused. Help.

@Arkandel said:

@VulgarKitten said:

Bond. James Bond. I would kill for (pun intended) a 007-themed MU*.

I'll be double-oh fifty six.

And I will be Alotta Fagina.

@Misadventure said:

There are usually big risks being taken on most or all sides of a conflict in cyberpunk type fiction.

...A Deep Risk?

Well done. I was just about to post Gwendolin Christie, too.

Why is it that Anglo-German women are so attractive...hnghn.

@BigDaddyAmin said:

The cop one isn't erotic. But I used to live in Wyoming. The show she is in, Longmire, takes place in Wyoming. I had this Bertolucci fantasy of being pulled over by a Wyoming Highway Patrolwoman who looked like Sackhoff and well...have habeas corpus suspended.

I'm not sure if you can call it not erotic while she's copping (heh) a "So are we fucking?" pose like that, but okay.

[Hnnnnnngh @ last picture]

@BigDaddyAmin said:

There you go, Cirno.

Thanks, matey. You have good taste. This post has officially earned my fiat.

I don't suppose you had more pictures of her to post? Just...hmm...curious.

We have a 'dead celebrities thread', and it occurred to me that we could use a 'Living Celebrity Thread', as a counterbalance.

You should listen to this music video while reading this thread.

https://youtu.be/Wt9Z6xkl94w

It's got one of the hottest white males in it, but that is a story for another thread.

Post pictures of erotic white female celebrities here. I shall start us off.

Include a name.

You probably shouldn't be looking at this thread while you're at work.

Christina Hendricks (you probably already knew that)

Wendy Fiore

Kate Upton (Yes, that same Kate Upton we hear so much about.)

Jordan Carver (That's just milk. Cow milk. That's not a double entendre.)

Katy Perry (But you knew that already.)

Jenny Poussin

Lucy Pinder

Casey Batchelor

Phoebe Price (datass.jpg)

Show me what you've got. I said, come on, fhqwhgads, I said come on, fhqwhgads.

@Misadventure said:

Put another way: You are Luke. It's down to you, Biggs, and Wedge. You have time for one run on the exhaust port. What do you do differently that is such an amazing expression of your creativity?

I attack Sephiroth and - ooh, shite, you meant the OTHER Biggs and Wedge from A New Hope, nevermind.

[slowly backs out of thread, accidentally knocking over a vase and a lamp on the way out]

Sorry.