Word is that many of the more famous actors came on board after the project was announced to fill in "additional" voices. Chances are they came in on the cheap, just like many stars did filling in for "additional" roles in the new Star Wards trilogy.
I'm looking at you, Simon Pegg.
@ziggurat said in Social Stats in the World of Darkness:
problems on MUs are, more often than anything else, problems between people - it baffles the shit out of me that helping people learn to/be able to successfully resolve interpersonal problems themselves is not considered a viable course of action here!
To the contrary, I consider this a given. Yes, helping people successfully resolve interpersonal problems is not only a viable course of action, but a commendable one. I've acknowledged this several times, and would heartily promote it.
What I'm looking for is a system to implement when this is simply not possible. Perhaps the players don't trust each other, but that's a rare occurrence; rather, a system is usually necessary when the objectives cannot be reconciled. When reasonable people cannot come to an agreement on how a situation shall unfold, that's when they turn to whatever system exists to resolve the problem.
There are also holes in the system in general. For example, PC A sucker-punches PC B, but PC B just wants PC A to back down and away. So, in the situation PC B just wants to make an Intimidation roll against PC A to stop the fighting, but what are the appropriate modifiers? Is a single success all that's required; if not, how many? What if PC B wants to beg forgiveness to mollify PC A for the purpose of ending the combat? Is that a Persuasion roll? One success or many? And what about parity: why does PC A need to engage in combat over several turns, but PC B able to succeed with a single success on a social roll?
And so on.
Yes, a Ventrue Prince could use Dominate to cow an opponent, but she also should be able to do so with but a look, yeah? Because she's the Prince: she's got Status; she's got power; and vampires know you just don't want to fuck with her. So, other than turning on her Dominate-eyes, why can't she stare down a Gangrel neonate into submission? I see that as completely feasible.
Or what about a Rahu? Yes, there's Dominance, but Uratha know not to bitch-slap a Rahu. She should be able to cow someone with a damn glance -- but how? Without a clear system, welp, it's time to slash them to bitty pieces.
Anyhow, yes. Yes, I understand what you're saying. And when I said "irrelevant," I meant "as to the construction of a robust social combat system."
But if the result is a system that removes the need to problem solve or cooperate OOC in order for players to butt heads ICly by mathematizing social encounters as thoroughly, or even more so, than physical combat? You're not going to reduce OOC hostility very much, you're just going to reduce the ability for people to throw tantrums when they don't get their way (and note, people still do this over physical combat, in any system, so idk what kind of platonically ideal social mechanics you had in mind but even they might not do what you're hoping for). (Emphasis added.)
Yes, this is what I'm aiming for were I to create or implement a more robust system of resolution.
@Rinel said in RL things I love:
What about when you want a chicken sandwich?!
Why go out and buy when you can dine at home?
(Yes, this is a joke about oral sex on a woman.)
I'm partial to Wendy's.
(Yes, there may be a double-meaning in that.)
@faraday said in Social Stats in the World of Darkness:
<FS3> Cate rolls Stealth+Reflexes (8 6 5 5 4 2 2 1) vs Erin's Demolitions+Wits (7 6 6 4 4 4)
<FS3> Marginal Victory for Erin.
And now I am sad and missing BSG:U.
Although, looking at this, I can't even imagine what the heck Cate and Erin were trying to do, yeah? Is Cate trying to hide from Erin's attempt to explode her?
...
Actually, that's probably the best way to look at it.
@surreality said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
"Honey, does that product name sound, uhm... "
"I swear, it's just a protein shake."
"It sounds like it has-"
"Stop!" Sigh. "...I know, I know."
I think I may have figured out my magical abilities.
@paris said in Forgiveness in Mushing:
You're probably not involved with whoever that person decides is theirs, or in the plot they've decided is theirs, etc.
It's more likely that I don't care if that person makes that call.
@surreality said in Forgiveness in Mushing:
Typically, the targets are people who aren't inclined to want to rock the boat, tend to keep their heads down, don't aim for the spotlight all the time, don't want to waste time with drama or OOC conflict, etc.
I don't like to rock boats. I keep my head down. I don't always aim for the spotlight. I hate wasting time. And yet, I'm not a target, apparently, or --
@caryatid said in Forgiveness in Mushing:
It isn't that you remain wholly separate, it's that you're oblivious to it going on.
-- I'm so oblivious that I'm being targeted that I don't sense anything happen.
I mean, maybe people have been horning me out of games preemptively. "Let's not RP with Ganymede so that she gets bored and wanders elsewhere!" I guess that may have been happening.
Honestly, I don't notice, and I don't care. Like, if that's the sort of petty bitchery people want to get into, that's fine with me.
Sooner or later, God'll cut 'em down.
I want to like them so badly.
Why?
Does not compute.
Why does anyone want to be friends with anyone?
Seriously, does not compute.
Friendship does not mean asking that person for help. It simply does not. I do not loan people money. I do not pick people up from work.
Iām not unfriendly; I simply have limits. I may break them for emergencies or humanitarian reasons, but I am not here to make you feel better. Donāt ask.
Iām here to present solutions and offer advice. If you donāt take it, so be it. And if you don't want honesty, donāt ask for it; Iām happy to lie to your face if itāll make you feel better.
Ah, yes, John "Incel" Hughes.
@tragedyjones said:
I guess good sex is less important than not being the douchebag sleeping with someone's girlfriend.
As far as I can tell, her desire to be with you is her problem, not yours.
@arkandel said in Learning how to apply appropriate boundaries:
Take this somewhat harmless example. I'm in a scene with you and Gany. My character says something confrontational IC and yours comes with a great snappy comeback... then Gany says, OOC, "hahah, she put you in your place Arkandel!".
<OOC> Ganymede says, "fuck u both i just shot hot coffee out of my nose"
@Derp said in The Work Thread:
I wish that I could convince my attorneys of this. Between Smartsheet and Sharepoint they're convinced they've hit the next big thing, and I'm over here like 'can we please please not'?
To be fair, Smartsheet is good for short-term projects in litigation and long-term development projects for which legal expertise is required.
But as far as firm management is concerned, it is an inefficient use of time. Feral cats are going to feral, period.
@magee101 said in Learning how to apply appropriate boundaries:
My question though specifically for you is what do you mean by "I really care if it is totally in-character;"
That's a typo; I'm sorry. I meant 'I really don't care if it is totally in-character ... '. Thanks for catching that.
I am not sure why doing something in character that is slightly skeevy is something that should be reported. (I mean what if sex isn't even involved? What if its quid pro quo on dusting vampires because you got their parking ticket removed?)
The entire point of the original post was to set up boundaries and hold them against people that want some sort of RP from you. If you're okay with quid pro quo RP, that's fine; as you said, it's not always of a sexual nature. In context, what I meant was "quid pro quo" in a sexual harassment context is not okay, and disgusting, and should be shunted from our hobby. (See previous post re A Weinstein.)
Copy and paste, then edit to make it more applicable. Do not forget the editing part. As you do this repeatedly, you will hone the document until you need to edit it less and less. My eviction practice runs really smoothly after several years of doing this with my complaints.
Charge full time for your efforts.
The math behind your system is quite relevant to the discussion, even if you donāt think so. Understanding the marginal benefits of how each factor is actually helping me figure out how to best build a PC.
@Luna said:
Ok that's what I thought and then I was like...surely not. I was like oh hey, no. It's just so weird.
It may be that, like an alcoholic in the twelve-step process, he wants to confront himself by apologizing to you. I doubt this to be the case, but he may be looking to reconcile, so as to give himself some sort of peace.
Iām sorry, since when does anyone consider Minaj to be the Queen of Rap?
@mietze said in What drew you to MU*?:
Enjoy what is, give your input once and constructively or at least respectfully, if it doesn't change in a way you can abide, move on.
In my old age, I have embraced this.
When I was a younger lawyercatbot, I was much more vociferous as to "what is to be done about this issue."
Now, I simply cannot be bothered.
Sex isn't always great, but it's still sex.
