@Derp You know you're a zen master when you no longer have the urge to throw your controller while playing Souls games.
You know you're a masochist when you look forward to new Souls games like Sekiro or Elden Ring.
You know you're ready to be a parent when you view death/respawning in Souls games as another opportunity and not as fuckThisFuckingGameImDone.
Love me some Souls.
@Ganymede said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
I would rather take my kids to a Motley Crue concert than a fucking Paw Patrol show
This is good parenting.
Because Motley Crüe is fucking awesome.
Word of warning.
If she has a history of being a bratty sis, then NOT BEING 21 might quickly turn into "she's drinking at my place and living the SXSW lifestyle at my expense, and now I have to keep track of her."
My little brother is notorious for being a motherfucker like that. While I was house sitting for my parents he just...invited 30 18-20yo over for a party. I made the mistake of trying to be a cool older brother and made an agreement that I'd keep it on the DL so long as everyone cleaned up and there was no drinking.
That was naive.
Ended up with a trashed place and bottles everywhere, and when I told him he needed to clean up, he said "I'll just tell mom it was you. Who's she gonna believe?" (my parents ended up believing it was him, but not punishing him for it. It took about 10 years for them to even admit that they knew he did wrong)
Hes done stuff like this so regularly over the years that I've learned that if he isnt specifically looking to spend time with ME, then I'm not going to accommodate him using me for his own purposes.
I would be very wary that this has less to do with wanting to be around you at all, but preferring not to spend money on motels.
@Seamus said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:
@Ganymede I never... saw that movie. So... I stand corrected.
Oh shit, Sicario was amazing. See it.
@ZombieGenesis said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:
since most RP takes place in that grand palace that is our imagination where that character could like like anything we want regardless of who the other player has listed as their PB.
Respectfully, saying that the other player could be envisioning something other than your preferred PB in their mind doesn't change the fact that at least one person is choosing to use another person's likeness on a webpage or in their writing without their consent.
Okay...how about this.
There are a few public figures in the MU community; some of which have been on tv, in film, etc. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAGE THEM AND ASK FOR THEIR CONSENT.
Would you choose to use their likeness as a PB without asking them first?
If the answer is no, TS or no TS, then logically the answer should equally be 'no' for Robert Downey Jr
@Auspice said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:
If PB factored in, it never would've happened. I don't find Joel Kinnaman attractive at all.
I always tried to maintain that my PBs were SIMILAR to what the character looked like, but not 100%, but yea PB wasn't ever really a deciding factor for me, either.
I dunno. I've said all I need to about this topic. I feel the way I feel, this is me, and I'm just sharing my thoughts on the matter. Once I thought these things, I just don't feel like i could use PBs again.
@ZombieGenesis Not to split hairs, but I'm pretty sure everyone in every porn ever did so being well aware that people were gonna fap to it.
But they chose to have their likeness used in those particular films, which is why it's so wrong to post naked pictures or sex videos of people online without consent even if you saw then naked on screen in that one movie. The films they signed onto get traded, distributed, rights sold, but just because they were in one movie doesnt make it legal/right to film them (and distribute content of) without their consent. The consent isnt transitive
I just do not personally believe that fame or level of public profile isn't a good boundary for using someone's likeness in a sexual situation without their consent.
Of course, I say this knowing that these games are all about the story, but we all know how common TS, the hunt for, and relationship RP is in this particular hobby so it's hard not to consider it somewhat one in the same. Not every player does TS, and not every PB is selected with TS in mind, but its prevalent and even if you never intended to TS but find yourself doing so is it okay to do so using that person's likeness without their consent?
But even without TS, consent is still a factor.
@ZombieGenesis said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:
While I don't ever see using actors/models/whatever as PBs going away I do think this brings up a good discussion. It's one we had on Blood Falls not that long ago as well. Someone wanted to use an Instagram "influencer/model" as their PB and wanted to know if it was okay. I told them I wasn't comfortable with it and would rather people keep their PBs to celebrities and use only "pubic" publicity photos(no paparazzi shots or candid shots from Instagram or anything).
I think it's a thin line but one I justify by saying that celebrities put themselves in the public spotlight. They release photos to publicize themselves and make themselves known. Fan sites have used these photos since the inception of the internet to "fan cast" various things.
And I thought about this, so as some kind of thought exercise I took it to the extreme:
Is it acceptable to (WITHOUT CONSENT) roleplay as (including using their likeness, expressions, and doing so to the point of effectively acting as a puppeteer for them) a hardcore pornographic actor in a sexual situation that even matches their go-to form of porn without their consent?
Technically, be it porn, tv, or movies those people choose what content they want tied to their face and likeness applied to, and even if it's stuff they logically might choose, they aren't being given the opportunity to provide consent.
Fan casting is just "I want Idris Elba to play Bond".
So, my own personal feelings on PBs (despite my opinions related to writing/ceeativity) is that in a TS sense you're basically using another human being's likeness as a sock puppet or sexual object without their consent.
ETA: Then I suppose the next logical thought exercise is to ask yourself: "If you were a famous person, what would your reaction be if you came across a website of someone using pictures of you to roleplay as you (including cybersex)? What if that person is your spouse, sister, or dad?"
@Seamus said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:
@Ghost said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:
@Groth said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:
While using someones likeness without their consent is iffy, I consider it a victimless crime unless they happen to know about it.
We could test this.
I'll need one person to send me their best picture of themselves. I wont say WHOSE picture that is, but I'll put it on a random game and wriggle into some TS with this person as the PB (using descriptions from PB photo in scene), then post the log.
If no one feels weird about it, then it's not weird.
Eh... I think this would be extremely off putting for me as a person.
It's why I stopped and if I ever MU again I wont use a PB. Just feels wrong to me, especially without their consent.
@Groth said in Image Attribution & Creative Commons:
While using someones likeness without their consent is iffy, I consider it a victimless crime unless they happen to know about it.
We could test this.
I'll need one person to send me their best picture of themselves. I wont say WHOSE picture that is, but I'll put it on a random game and wriggle into some TS with this person as the PB (using descriptions from PB photo in scene), then post the log.
If no one feels weird about it, then it's not weird.
@Pandora Rightright. Some read Animal Farm. Others understood it.
Four legs good, two legs bad and all that.
I just witnessed a whole bunch of people being shitty to other people while praising the importance of not being shitty to tech support people.
If only that tech support guy woulda told Auspice he was an MSB user, then maybe he would have deserved the lack of patience and general civility, eh?
Keep on keepin' on
ETA: @Auspice, tech people who waste my time (and theirs) walking me through a script despite me having already done the initial troubleshooting is annoying. I get it, I do, but if they're citing backed up energy in the coax then you're probably better off doing their job for them. Which sucks because unfortunately you need them to run the flow tests.
I could listen to that Florence + The Machine cover of "Stand By Me" forever. Didnt know about that until FFXV
I still want my sequel to Clive Barker's Jericho.
@Ganymede You asking bored specifically?
@Kestrel hahahaha yeaaaaah pretty much what I thought, too
@Auspice Yeah, no I get it, I do. I fully understand QA cycles, target goals, etc. I would rather have a finished game later than a buggy one now.
Just feels like:
@Roz said in General Video Game Thread:
The Final Fantasy 7 remake got delayed, too.
You made me frown.
This sucks. Was planning to set time aside for Cpunk and ff7, too. Ugh. I get wanting to have a finished product but it's like they're dangling it
First VtM Bloodlines 2.
Now Cpunk 2077.
<train of disappointed expletives about CPunk being pushed back 6 months to September.>
@Auspice I will pass this along to Mr. Ghost. Thank you.
