@Arkandel said:
I guess if we're talking oWoD... a lot.
I loved the metaplot in Vampire. Loved it.
Yeah, this. I didn't really have a better answer because while I loved most of oWoD's stories and themes, I merely tolerate nWoD's because it's what people are playing.
I even liked Vampire's, despite not really liking Vampire.
@Monogram
I'm pretty much the opposite. I like WoD, but even a WoD game is going to get a pass if it's set in the past. I can handle alt-present, or possible future, but if you try to set a game much before the 90s I'm just eeeeeenh.
I also tend to feel the same way about playing plain mortals as you do about playing in the present. I'm already one of those, I'd rather play something with more to it.
Sort of:
If you're using Enterprise you're supposedly shit out of luck unless you want to pay, but there's a way to redo your install as Professional, so it's not too big a deal.
Notably, Microsoft claims that all installations that qualify by edition will be allowed a free upgrade to legit Win10, regardless of activation status or legitimacy. i.e. even the dirty pirates, mostly because they want to push the Win10 market share as high as possible and installation statistics don't care whether an OS is pirated or not.
Honestly Win8 and 10 are similar enough that I'd probably be comfortable just doing an in-place upgrade rather than a clean install. I'll probably do a couple of runs on my test rig to see how it deals with various levels of complexity (drivepool, junction points, etc), but I'll be surprised if it doesn't work fine.
Edit: For clarity, if you upgrade to Win10 for free within the first year, you will never have to pay for it. It's not like you'll only get it free for a year and then have to pay on day 366 to keep your OS.
Edit 2: Also, the Classic Shell thing works for Win10 as well as 8. There's not quite as much reason to use it, but I find the Win10 start menu (which IS present) to still be pretty annoying. I really don't like the blocky Metro-like way it organizes things, or the space wasting alphabetizing shit, myself so I'll probably keep using it.
I got asked about this yet again, so I'm putting it here in its own thread. If you want to dump the Windows 8 Metro bullshit, it's incredibly simple.
This pretty much does it. There's some things you can't really change, like the metro-app style PC Settings and whatnot, but those are pretty minor cosmetic and organization issues to get used to, not complete (and completely ridiculous) interface changes.
If you don't like the default 'Start' image on the task bar, you can replace it during setup. It can be a Classic Shell little clam shell or a custom image, etc. If you google classic shell start button you can generally find image files to download to restore it to the standard Win7 orb, or whatever else you want. A friend of mine uses a Hellraiser puzzle box. 
In a pinch I can skype the folder I have full of Win7 orb icons in various sizes to whoever's interested.
If I think of anything else I'll add it here. If anybody thinks of any questions or Win8 problems, let me know here and I'll see if I have or can find a fix.
WINDOWS 10 UPDATE
Everything about Classic Shell applies here. It's still a good choice if you don't like the Windows 10 start menu behavior. I'll probably put some more updates here later, but this seemed like the most important one:
By default, Windows 10 Home automatically downloads and installs updates. The intended behavior by Microsoft was that the end user had no ability to stop this in Home, and Pro users could only delay them. Given that this is all a pretty terrible idea, and enough people finally said so:
Microsoft releases tool to hide or block unwanted updates.
Further:
How to schedule when windows 10 updates restart your PC.
EDIT: For those concerned with privacy issues (which are being backdated to earlier Windows versions as far as 7), a tool.
No adware, no tricky installs, just run as administrator and choose your options.
Isn't Mummy like... wildly unsuited to a MU*? Again going on second hand information, but I'm pretty sure the first time you whip out your "I reach back to the dawn of creation and alter the big bang so that a meteor shower arrives right here to rain down my divine wrath on all who oppose me." power, even the Mages are going to be pointing and laughing.
up there on a level with @EmmahSue in terms of ethics and brains and stuff.
She's a monster, don't let her fool you! 
We're just going to tabletop it using the rules from Fantasy Flight's take on the Star Wars RPG, which is pretty awesome, and use Force powers for biotics and some tech stuff.
@Derp said:
Why can't we just make casual sex between random strangers socially acceptable? I mean, damn. We should be there already.
It's not? Whups.
Nope. It's one of those games that everybody talks about how theoretically awesome it is, but nobody ever plays.
Doublepost for unrelated comment, because I lol'd way too hard at this:
@Roz said:
Really, the reason it becomes complicated is because there are assholes who get told "hey, these are my pronouns" and the assholes go "fuck you and your pronouns."
I heard a comparison once where it's like your name is Robert and you like to go by Robert and some asshole is like, hah hah no I'm gonna call you Bob, and you go, hey please call me Robert that's what I like to go by, and the asshole is all, HAH HAH NOPE. People act like it's SUCH AN IMPOSITION, and yeah sometimes it goes against your instinct and you have to be more conscious of it, but really if someone tells you their preference and you refuse, you're pretty much just an asshole.
I solve this by just assigning people random gender pronouns that have nothing to do with their appearance or my knowledge one way or another, and then just sticking with that for them forever. I even have a little random gender generator app to help me decide, I give my phone a shake and whatever it pops up I tag to the person's name. My wife was lucky enough to get a she, but unfortunately my best friend is a big bear of a dude who I'll forever refer to as she/her, and my sister is a solid it/its.
@Thenomain
While the first part of that is true (GMC rules update is free), calling it an extension is kind of a misnomer. Sweeping changes to several major systems make GMC even more different from nwod as Revised was from 2nd Edition in owod.
Don't listen to @Derp, he's a monster.
I just looked at that link and nearly had a goddamn party in my pants. Somebody involved in this thing finally realized how fucking useless and annoying that opening page is. Hallelujah.
Can we try not to discourage hot women from wearing revealing clothing?
No one who matters is being done any favors by this.
@Arkandel
I know I've mentioned this before, but for a while I went to a theater where you could ask at customer service for a call device. They only gave out a few per theater, but it had like four buttons on it, all of which would silently call someone to look in and respond as necessary.
The buttons were:
Yes, noisy children got their own button. A++. Sadly the seating sucks so we don't go there anymore.
Story Time:
I was in a Starbucks when a lady started breast feeding her kid, and an older guy got all bent out of shape over it and asked the barista to tell her to stop, and the woman behind the counter told him if he had a problem with her feeding her baby he could go wait in the bathroom until she was done.
A good laugh was had by most present, but it did draw even more attention to her, and she got kind of flustered and said something like "Okay, everybody can stop staring at my breast now." and the same barista told her that if she had a problem with people looking at her bare breasts, she could go bare it in the bathroom until she was done.
I put a tip in the jar and I wasn't even there to buy anything, just waiting for a friend, because that was fantastic.
I've grown far less tolerant. Maybe just in movie theaters. I will not hesitate to notify ushers, security, management, whoever is supposed to get notified about disruptions, if someone's kid is being a disruption for more than a short period. Or repeatedly over numerous short periods.
Is their kid disabled? Perfectly abled but still a little monster? On medication that makes them irritable? I do not give a fuck, get out.
Oh, also libraries. If you can't stop your kid from screaming non-stop, get the fuck out.
I put up with noisy ass kids in restaurants, malls, grocery stores, on the train, in the park, all over the place. I game with friends who have four kids ranging between 8 and 1, and aside from the occasional physically painful shriek, I don't bat an eyelash at them being little monsters, but if they brought them to a movie theater and those kids couldn't control themselves? I'd have their asses out in a heartbeat.
Which they know, and so they don't take their kids if it'll be a problem. If that means they just don't go to movies if they can't make arrangements, then it does. And yeah, it sucks for them, but too bad. They chose to be parents, not the rest of us,. There's other places, other ways, you can go out and get your public on where people will feel obligated to put up with poorly behaved (for whatever reason) children. The movie theater isn't one of those places.
I believe I was on Masq around the same time. Maybe just a bit after. I seem to remember some shit about Caine.
@Thenomain said:
@HelloRaptor doesn't want a scrawny billygoat like @Coin. His brother is much bigger and tastier.
I'm biding my time for @Eerie, grill's already fired up.