Best posts made by Kanye Qwest

@mietze A staffer away from the game for a week should not be a huge deal. My favorite thing I've ever seen said in a game is "but what if it's an emergency"

It makes me giggle and giggle.

An emergency. A roleplay emergency.

He lost the popular vote by what, almost 3 million? it's ridiculous to assume they didn't.

@saosmash said in Apology to Darinelle:

@tinuviel On the other hand, when you insult someone publicly, why should you get to apologize in private? I'm not super impressed by the public theater either but I don't have a better solution.

i mean, you could not run your mouth like an asshole while thinking "take this constructively" at the top would change the intended read in some way. That's a solution.

@thenomain said in Looking for an Artist, actually willing to pay...:

And yet doctors are shy telling them that their problems come from, e.g., being overweight because they're afraid to lose the business.

the hell they are. Doctors notoriously blame any and everything on weight. Particularly weight in women.

Be concise. Be clear. Do not make it about them. Do not get bogged down. Think "we don't do that here", or "this bothers me, I'd appreciate it if I didn't have to deal with it".

I honestly feel like part of the reason Gaston has not kept a long term player is all the B&tB jokes.

@pyrephox Yes. I don't honestly find this kind of display very constructive, because the projected margin is so slim it's in 'who gives a damn' territory, but is presented in a way that all but begs for interpretation by people who don't want to math out the systems as "oh no if I don't do this right I am at a big disadvantage".

@Carex said in Where to play?:

@faraday said in Where to play?:

Even if you ignore the fact that "automotive" includes motorcycles by definition

No, it doesn't. You go to entirely different schools with different certifications and use entirely different parts. There are even different laws regarding cars and bikes.

Saying you have too many car shops so you can't open a bike shop is like saying you have too many plastic surgeons so no one can open a dentist office.

It's just dumb.

That's not dumb. Splitting a hair instead of just saying "oh ok, wasn't sure if this was included in the restricted concept umbrella. I'll work for someone else" is dumb.

It's really dumb.

A PC pursues plot like a player. A PC may sign up for, participate in, even make bold moves and be the star of a particular plot.

An NPC is there to further the story, or enhance the world, or hold a position that is important but not appropriate for a player. An NPC may not sign up for a PRP and discover the solution or defeat the bad guy or do something else that takes spotlight a player could have away from players.

Bingo bango.

I agree with some people!

While any subset is going to be full of those who don't apologize well (or ever), I think in this hobby the reluctance to forgive is way more toxic. Outliers aside, "someone screwed my character over IC 10 years ago" is not a reason to hold a grudge. "A staffer was rude when they handled my job", likewise. "Someone was shitty to me", probably yeah maybe move on and let it go? Everyone has moments they are a shitty person. Everyone.

You can find something hot/sexy that is still 100% ic, and that is not creepy. If I am doing IC rp and someone tells me, OOC, that it inspired a RL orgasm? That is invasive and uncomfortable and weird, and it is ON THEM.

I have so many yikes right now.

This is really disappointing, considering Gany and Derp both joked in it. It was locked because it brought up a very real grievance with an admin. There are many threads in the hog pit specifically made to talk about a single person, and the distinction between staff on a GAME being fair targets and staff on this board not being fair targets is a bad call.
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The locking of the thread in politics was just as disappointing, because it wasn't locked for the reasons you posted. It wasn't vitriolic. You locked it because an admin was acting a fool and people were calling them out.

People who did not have Derp blocked before now cannot block him, because he is an admin.

This is a problem, and you need to deal with it.

@Darinelle Nor should you feel bad. There's this sensible line of what staff should or shouldn't do re: characters they play and most people see staffers missing it (or assume that's what they are seeing) and forevermore it's 'staffers should never x'.

Eff that. If you put work into a game making it fun for other people, you also get to have fun. If that means you take a npc along on an adventure to rp with your friends or provide help outside what they can do/hindrance as a villain, you get to do that. If that means asking other staffers or pcs to facilitate scenes that ARE about your characters, so they can have growth and fun? YOU GET TO DO THAT. If it means rping an NPC that you enjoy with players that are enriched by that story and by the time spent rping with you? You get to do that.

And you should not ever feel bad about it.

@phaedrus said in Hog Pit as read only:

At the end of the day, though, no one told me when I took that character that he was reserved for his IC sister, which is fundamentally what the whole issue was in the first place, and led to all of this regrettable offense.

You can keep saying things like this, I suppose, but that won't make them true.

There's an entire set of manipulative tactics I see from online people - often bad actors - and they are so painfully transparent. One of them (1) is to keep asserting falsehoods as if they are something anyone else has confirmed or agreed with.

You were playing the character against his sheet, first of all. You were planning to obey the letter of the 3 month rule while completely trashing the spirit of it. It's not about the number of days, it's about encouraging people to play a character as written, both for CONTINUITY of the world - and because they might find they like the character as written. And if they don't, they should probably find another character.

Another of those painfully transparent manipulation tactics is (2) fishing for clues as to who reported them after they are banned. I'd say fully 75% of the people I banned or paid attention to the bannings of did this. And here you are, doing what looks suspiciously like padding the stats.

Sometimes they do this by pretending innocence. "Gosh, I don't even know what I could possibly have done! No one has talked to ME about it. No one has complained to ME, whatever is this about?"

Sometimes they do this by immediately trying to guess. "Oh, is this about x that happened? I told them they misunderstood, I didn't mean it like that!"

Sometimes they do it by appearing contrite. "Oh no! I would never mean to do such a thing! I'd really like to apologize, for my own peace of mind! But - to whom?"

Sometimes they do it by stating something false or oversimplified, in the hopes eventually it will annoy someone so much they'll be baited into giving away those clues. Such as, hm, glance above this post.

PS (pspspsps) I played your brother for the end of your tenure on this char. I went to a big open scene with an NPC to support your char, being vocal and involved. My experience of you was:

• you barely acknowledged me
• you attacked a powerful NPC no one could scratch with no armor, and then complained in OOC (and? I don't actually remember if it was both) channels about how apparently USELESS and WEAK your char was when you didn't win (which is against the rules of the game)
• you said something OOC to me about having to go for RL, completely unprompted, I assume as a way to indicate we'd have to RP another time
• you then were on @where IC elsewhere with other chars. Now, maybe your RL was quick! I can't know, and don't care. But you def chose to use OOC communication with me instead of IC.
• the next few days, you sent an IC message to me and our IC sister, indicating we should get together for a family dinner wherein you would 'try to be nice to each other' or something.

The end. Not the most extensive experience but it didn't leave me with much hope you were really out there 'stimulating rp and running events'.

I'm sure some people are happy to buy your narrative of this. I am just not, considering my experience with the behavior markers I see.

Hi!

One time I banned someone from Arx for sexist behaviour and had to endure some really stupid pages from another player insisting that person was not sexist, they were just acerbic. To EVERYONE, you see? Equal opportunity jerk, and it was probably an overreaction on my part /the part of the players reporting him.

To which I said 'I discussed this behaviour with him and he acknowledged it was sexist but said he didn't think it was a big deal, so thanks info but maybe also don't devil's advocate'.

A lot of men aren't sexist until they experience a challenge to their presumed authority. The vast majority of people are pretty cool as long as they are getting their way.

So while I think a no-discussion-needed system for people to not be pushed out of their personal comfort zones is good, I couldn't care less about convincing third parties.

@Kestrel ugh, I hate being let down like that. These days, every time I like something a dude has done/created I have that nagging "you are probably going to regret enjoying this" feeling. Women are not immune, of course, but...

The thing about 'sexist behavior' - or racist, or whatever - is that it's so rarely a binary. I know several men I've had to bring around in my actual life who seemed to think sexist men were these mustache twirling goons who couldn't stop themselves from making comments like GET IN THE KITCHEN AND SUCK MY DICK every time they so much as saw a woman. It's so rarely like that. These biases and entitlements are deep seated and strongly conditioned, and often you don't even see them until you knock that person off-canter. You don't see that a man is sexist until a woman challenges him/has some kind of control over an aspect of his life.

RP is so emotionally charged, and SO full of wish fulfillment. You see sexism coming out of people around rp because almost no one gracefully accepts having their fun/power fantasy affected by someone else. I am an ethical, thoughtful, and compassionate person, and I get bent out of shape emotionally about rp.

I use PBs even though I would feel iffy about it. Generally only people who regularly get their picture taken and would not be shocked to see it floating around on the internet - models, actors, etc. I wouldn't ever just see someone whose face I liked and lift it off their personal social media, or something.

I'm playing a character using a model as a PB, and he recently died. Young, unexpected, tragic. I learned it after a scene and did some quick math and realized he probably died as I was roleplaying a character using his likeness.

It's weird. I felt weird, and bad. I have no point here, because I'm not sure what the correct ethical stance is on all this. I just wanted to share this story and how weirdbad it made me feel. RIP Godfrey Gao.

@kk

I can only really speak to Arx, as that's the only game I've had any input on the policy/world of. We wanted people to have representation without having to recreate struggles they face in life. That's why the Platinum Shift (the thing that helped human society in many ways, including the mixing in different skin colors and traits to the point no one would think of discriminating that way) happened in the past. That's just the way things are, now. You can be from Bastion and be very dark skinned, pale, or anywhere in between**. You can be of any gender or sexual orientation, and there's no built in discrimination that accompanies it. We went so far as to bend lore-creation to the purpose of enabling these things. No, it doesn't always make perfect logical sense to us in the framework of our experiences, but I mean. There are crazy elves who ride giant spiders. None of it makes perfect logical sense. It doesn't have to.

** just not of the East Asian characteristics for clarity because that IS a homogenous group that exists elsewhere in the world.

@egg said in Diversity Representation in MU*ing:

@Kestrel Why shouldn't I be mad? If I spend most of my leisure hours in a place where "representing yourself" = white (and even moreso, Aryan half of the time), shouldn't I want to see change there? Is it as important as the film industry changing its racial bias? Of course not. Does that mean I shouldn't care at all? No.

nah different things will always bother different people, and that's ok. It doesn't bother Kestrel, good for kestrel! It does bother you, ...well, not GOOD for you, but you know what I'm saying here. That's also valid and worth talking about.

I get annoyed by all kinds of demographic stuff in MU, and some of it you just have to shrug at (no one wants to be over 33 years old, no one wants to be unattractive) and some of it you grouse about to your friends (why is everyone 7' tall, why are 22 year olds experts of everything that ever could be accomplished by a person, why do people call eyes orbs) and some of it is actually problematic and bears examining (why DO people assume 'default' or 'normal' is white? why DO people want the inclusion of RL biases).