Or people are using haggle even if they are not min/maxed (THE HORROR) because they can get mats cheaper which means people who say they want to buy stuff from them wont bitch so much about cost and they can still get some $$ for their time.
Not everyone thinks in terms of most efficient or just about number crunching. They just dont.
@too-old-for-this I think this may be a key thing that could be missed by people who dont use it regularly. I know you know this but for those that have never used it and might be envisioning a more straightforward item to money in the pocket:
It is not like the broker where you can sell/buy as many as you want in one go.
Sometimes you might get lucky and be able to sell all you want to sell in a large block but many times you will have to break it into 2-3 chunks. Rolling to see if you can find a buyer and if so how much costs 5 AP even if you never go further or if you fail your roll, which can indeed happen even if you have high stats.
Once you find out if you have found a seller/buyer and how many items they are willing to sell/buy (which may not be the full amount you asked for especially at higher quantities), you spend 5 more AP to roll to find out the cost of your deal. Even when you have high stats and especially when you are seeking to haggle high tier stuff, you may not find much of a deal. You can choose at that point to take the deal or walk away out 10 AP.
This happens every time.
I have now been sick with the flu for over a fucking week and still can only manage a couple of hours of productive time before I am back shivering and exhausted in my bed.
If you havent already gotten your flu shot, get it!! I got mine late and picked up the bug before it was at its protective level. No one else has gotten it except for a mild version in the preschooler because they got their shots weeks ago.
You don't want this thing. It is not as nasty as the first run of h1n1 but it's up there in nastiness.
What about RPing out the planning (like who's doing what). Then you guys run the demi-IC but mostly ooc paperworking stuff (like the action, or...whatever?) Where you actually DO get to crunch the numbers and toss dice. Get the results, and then come back together and RP about it? Just don't talk about it IC in real time until those numbers come back.
Sometimes with delayed stuff (like when you are waiting on staff to respond to a job, or action or to judge a roll, whatever the format is for the place you are on), it feels kind of weird to not do any play around the subject of that until you've at least had staff/judge input, but I think it's vital. Otherwise it does feel kind of weird boring and drawn out because you're spinning your wheels talking about the same thing for forever with an artificial-ish drawn out period.
So:
Scene 1 (or maybe 2, depending on the group and scheduling) make plans, get to know each other, assign tasks, geek out about methods ICly.
OOC action: get job/action together, ooc coordinate everyone doing the input needed.
Wait with NO RP about progress or plans until judge/GM/Staff gives you the results for that round. Do not talk about it OOC when you get the results.
Next scene: NOW have fun pulling apart the results IC! If you are on a progression or need more action, talk about it plan it assign tasks and geek out.
OOC action: same as the first.
Wait same as the first.
In other words, treat it like a scening pose order where you do not have scenes after you submit that OOC action/job until you get your response. It's slow, but IME it will tend to make the RP more exciting when you have it, and people more engaged, than if you've done yourselves to death ooc and icly talking about it while you get more and more impatient for a response?
@silverfox hmmm. have you thought about a general post on game asking for people who like that kind of thing? They do exist! Like I know so many MUSHers who are all excited to show me their spreadsheets and tell me about this very involved intellectual/systemic plan they have to increase other things that I have a hard time wrapping my mind around because they are not super tangible and I don't know what the fuck they just said to me but they're super excited about it so I'm happy they're happy, but I can't really HELP them you know?
Y'all need to find each other, because then you can actually have fun in that realm too with people who understand and are also excited!
They didn't even mention beefdarts or turgid manhood. Or effluvia. There was pulsing though at least. 
@jinshei really? that seems kind of tame. It was also short!
Ummm let's see. I dont think anyone has mentioned
Casefile
Canadian true crime
American Sex
Hardcore History
History of Byzantium
Trace Evidence
Yeah, I might be a podcast addict
Also:
Someone Knows Something
Kitchen Table Cult (I believe I've mentioned that I spent a lot of my childhood/very early adulthood in cult like fundamentalist religious setting. These two young folks are walkways from the same community)
If you are interested in series, I recommend:
Heaven's Gate (Glenn washington narrating)
Dr Death
For lighter fare:
99% Invisible
Things you missed in history class
Ask a manager
Let's talk about myths, baby
Small Town Murder and Crime In Sports (done by the same guys) are hilarious and I love them.
I love bad TS scenes. Like love love love. Gimme spelling, punctuation, and pretty good grammar and you can crank my pepper mill all you want!
Unfortunately I don't often have the 3+ hours required any more.
TS is such innocent and often unintentional (and very often perfectly intentional) over the top fun. Never quite understood why so many people dog on it. But yeah, reading that stuff brought back a lot of super fun memories.
At least in MUSHing bad or unintentionally hilarious sex scenes are free!
Don't mind me, I'll just be over here ratcheting up my pepper mill. 
OK, so that one is pretty cute. I'd probably +vote and +praise someone for that.
2 nights back to back late night urgent care visits, not for me. Still sucks.
To the original-ish point though, boundary setting is not so much about what you do TO or FOR other people. It's more deciding in advance how YOU will react, when someone's behavior starts to feel violating to you, before it gets to the point of being an actual violation..
This is why I don't use the same thought process behind boundary setting that I do towards someone being abusive. That can happen out of left field that someone decides to violate you. It can happen from "friends" or strangers. Once that has been done, I think boundaries are kind of beside the point. They do not prevent abusers from abusing. I think that should be made super clear.
Boundaries will /not prevent abusive people from continuing on with their abusive behavior/. What they can do though is help increase your comfort because you've come up with a plan of action when things start to brush up against issues/behaviors that make you feel extremely uncomfortable. Not that they'll make you immune from having to deal with it. Like you really cannot escape that in interacting with other humans.
Deciding that you will speak up when you feel that you are being belittled, or that you will page or send a mail privately to someone if they are making ooc comments towards you that are unkind or seem to be belittling or that you will check in periodically with someone for reassurance--these are all great and healthy boundaries. They're about actions that you can take to protect yourself and to check yourself before an issue becomes something more than that.
Deciding in the moment that if someone that you have RPed with for months and months about a certain subject or in a certain line of play ask you for it one more time you will demand they change or cut ties since obviously they're not getting the hints you've dropped along the way that you really don't like it--that is a reaction (and probably an understandable one) but you have been violating your own boundary by never directly stating that you don't want this to happen and want it to stop. You should probably expect some surprise/shock/bad feelings from that person because it is hard to be told something you thought the other person liked they've hated this whole time, and they may wonder what else you've been hiding. It may lead to a breach of trust that they feel happened on your end too. It's not going to be comfortable for either of you, but there's no reason a reasonable person can't work it out. It is reasonable they may have mixed feelings for awhile, but you will get what you want (a stop to that behavior) most of the time. It just may not be as comfortable as you'd like it to be Which is okay.
Similarly, someone who responds to a request of "Please don't joke on the ooc channel about PKing my pc or If you have a question or a concern about what I'm doing with this job/requestplot ect I'd like it to be brought to me privately rather than you questioning me about it on pub channel as soon as I log in" or even worse "I really love the relationship we've built between our two PCs but I would like to branch out a bit with our play and not TS/do slice of life/whatever with our PCs for awhile, can we please do X or Y or Z instead to take a little break?" with "ZOMG WELL SINCE I'M SO HORRIBLE I'LL NEVER RP WITH YOU AGAIN AND YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH ME EVER AGAIN!!!!" is clearly not someone with healthy boundaries or probably even capable of discussing that with you. You're going to have to be uncomfortable, but probably they'll no longer be pestering you or making public comments about you. You cannot control them or their feelings. Putting limits to how much of that you will tolerate before speaking up or asking for intervention won't control it either. Nor will it absolve you of discomfort.
Knowing other people don't like you, or that you have inadvertently hurt someone else--is not comfortable. Sometimes it's helpful to have a plan on how you will act/what you will and won't give should your own behavior be brought to light as having hurt or made someone else uncomfortable.
Boundaries just are not magical things. I think they're most valuable for keeping your choices and your own behavior on the up and up.
I think that there are many people who operate under the assumption that "setting boundaries" is confrontational and adversarial. It really isnt. Someone who leads with "either do this for me or I'm kicking you to the curb" is not really boundary setting, they are issuing a reactionary ultimatum potentially in a manipulative way, but most likely in an explosive after bottling it up way.
But as you say. How someone reacts to perceived criticism or being asked politely to not do something speaks volumes. Its valuable info.
I agree , when expressing discomfort or dissatisfaction is used to try to "win" and get your way. But I think you can have situations where that isnt the case (which is what I assumed Faraday meant) and so if you want to negotiate and are up for that ooc, starting off with "change or leave" may not be the best approach. Because that can and does trigger people who would have perhaps worked with you to find something more agreeable or mutually agreed upon to just say "ok then, bye."
Its like starting off a disagreement or annoyance with your spouse or partner by throwing in a "we can just divorce or break up then!"
There are some people whose interpersonal skills are that bad, though, RL and in game and it can be a pretty bad experience to deal with them until they learn to negotiate/fight more...fairly? Constructively?
I think interpersonal relationships are rarely fair or equitable across all humans. So yeah, I mean there are absolutely going to be times when someone drives you up a tree that you would not be bothered were it someone, anyone else. That is neither your fault or the other person's. You just dont care for them very much. That's fine, and human. What is not fine is taking that dislike of someone and not being able to own the fact that you just dont like them or that they rub you the wrong way, and turn it into a bigger deal than it is because you dont want to be seen as "being like that" and elevating your natural or initial dislike into something actionable or that you encourage other people to join in on to save you discomfort or feeling bad about it (or for that small minority of people in the hobby, because it excites you that you've found your next target for exclusionary behavior/games).
@ganymede yeah that type of pressure is seriously seriously yucky. it makes me recoil a little just thinking about it. but can that be common, oh yeah. 
Or that it is okay to not like doing everything with everyone. You should be able to maintain civility around people you do not like but are not putting anything on you but their existence, on a game. But everyone should ideally understand that: 1) just because you see your person you want to engage indulging in certain play with other people does not mean that they need to do it with you, 2) you do not need to give your same time commitment to people you dislike as you do with people you do like, and in fact if you try to do this you are probably going to end up being needlessly mean or impatient with them because nobody hides their genuine dislike of someone as well as they think they do, and 3)it is always okay to tell someone to stop a behavior that is distressing to you even if they have not broken rules per se as long as that behavior is not "being on the same game" and as long as you are willing to take ownership of the fact that as you discuss you may need to yield as much as them, when it comes to things like shared spaces and people.
It is good when you realize that it's just a dislike of that person on your part rather than a fault of theirs. Because someone deciding that their dislike of someone needs to drum up to that person being offensive has caused a lot of pain and is in fact used as a manipulative tactic by a memorable handful of folks.
So I do think people need to be both less tolerant of genuinely rude, thoughtless, and bad behavior while at the same time more tolerant of different playstyles and things other people like that you may not.
Sometimes the line is fine, but in my experience the line can also be fudged and used as an excuse to engage in truly vile behavior.
Someone not jumping through all the hoops you want to to include them in your personal play or someone who you feel is stupid for not getting "obvious" things that you think they should, or who is boring or who only seems to be interested in the <gender of choice> in the room, ect--these are not things that I would have a discussion with someone about.
Someone imposing on me in a proactive way, such as channel or OOC browbeating, trying to force types of play on me that I didn't want, ect? That's worth both a discussion and immediate staff intervention if it is not listened to.