@lithium said in Good or New Movies Review:
Oh dear. Here we go again. Starting to think @Cirno has snuck back on.
That's because you think that you do nothing wrong, and that there would be a finite people who dislike your attitude.
@lithium said in Good or New Movies Review:
Oh dear. Here we go again. Starting to think @Cirno has snuck back on.
That's because you think that you do nothing wrong, and that there would be a finite people who dislike your attitude.
@auspice said in Comfort Food...:
Please make my food slutty.
@cobaltasaurus said in Comfort Food...:
@ortallus That does sound good. These were out of a microwaved bag tho. With kerrigold irish butter and kosher salt put on afterward.
Would still have worked. Just instead of butter, use my "secret sauce".
Since we're making food slutty now, thanks to @Ganymede.
@coin Carefuly, Lithium is perfect. She's never wrong or off. If there's a problem, clearly it's you.
@cobaltasaurus said in Comfort Food...:
and buttered steamed asparagus.
The whole meal sounds delicious, but a suggestion to try, and this works really well with any green vegetable (and probably some others):
Take about 2 T olive oil, some finely chopped garlic (1-2 cloves is plenty), 1 t sesame oil, and some lemon zest. Warm the olive oil and garlic until fragrant over low heat, then add the other ingredients, let warm for about a minute, then toss with your veggies.
@apu said in Recipes!:
My take on baked potato soup:
Potatoes: Baked
Bacon
Onion (not red/purple)
Milk
Salt & Pepper
Baked potato toppings: Chives, shredded cheddar, bacon bits, sour cream, etc.(I don't use/give amounts for the various ingredients because this is totally something you can do to taste or based on what you have on hand.)
Bake potatoes until just a little over the done stage and saute onions and bacon together (bacon won't get crispy). Drain a little of the grease off if you want but don't drain it entirely as it flavors the soup along with the bacon/onion mixture. When the potatoes are done you cut them open and put the tater innards into the pot with the mixture and add milk until it's the desired consistency you want. I tend to go for something between a thinner mashed potato and a thicker chowder base after everything's mashed together. Heat through, salt and pepper to taste (most likely won't need too much salt due to the bacon) and serve with baked potato toppings if desired.
(This is not diet/artery friendly, consider yourself warned!)
ETA: To give an example of what measurements I use for a very hungry family of four:
1 bag of potatoes (usually use the whole thing since these potatoes tend to be on the small side)
1-1 1/2 pound of bacon (some brands are just a pound, others a pound and a half)
1 large yellow or white onion
However much milk needed for desired consistency - usually about half a gallon
What size bag? Weight wise?
@packrat said in General Video Game Thread:
@ortallus I loved Don't Starve but have yet to give Oxygen Not Included a go. I think I am going to wait for it to leave early access.
That's fair, though it's far from the standard early access game. It gets updates every 3 weeks or so, and is immensely playable and fun as it is. No real bugs that I've noticed.
Still, yeah, I understand wanting to wait, but definitely don't let this one slip your watch list.
One of my favorite underappreciated developers is Klei. Don't Starve, DS:T and their newest, Oxygen Not Included, are tons of fun.
@surreality said in Internet Attacks? Why?:
@ganymede Then why continue to go on at me at length for saying I think it's fucked up and that something is clearly broken here? That sure doesn't sound like it's OK for me to have an opinion.
I was more under the impression Gany was trying to show you the facts of why it's unlikely to happen, based on the laws as they stand.
Should something happen?
Debatable.
Is something likely to happen?
No.
@auspice Unfortunately I haven't played E:D since they put out the first expansion and dicked over the players who already owned the game.
@thugheaven said in Armageddon MUD:
@ortallus The thing is that doesn't happen. The example you're using really never happened. There were players who didn't know where simple things were. Ok, say you didn't want to ask where something is. They've put in a direction system so that it will tell you exactly how to get to the water fountain. There is no water fountain by the way, but I get your point. That's not ICA=ICC is it?
The ICA=ICC point that was made was: You don't know the ranks of the different templars. Cool, that's not in the documentation. Or even how to address a templar properly, cool that's not in the documentation. The poster that made that point, is right, things like that DID used to happen. If you asked "I noticed templars wear different colors, does that denote rank?" in the forum, you might get answers like "Find out IC" but that was like 2007. I haven't seen anything like that for some time. So say you didn't know and you addressed a templar as "Bro" or something that caused them to react poorly toward you. If you break character and say, "I'm sorry I didn't know how to address you." They would most likely break character and tell you, "The proper way to address a templar in Allanak is...." and skip right over that....provided you didn't keep doing it, then that's another issue. But sometimes some players will stay in character and tell you in character how to address a Templar.
I also pointed out that you absolutely CAN ask that question on the forum or discord and players WOULD tell you exactly how to do it. So right there you have three ways of finding that out.
Players will make allowances for you not knowing something.
Sure, and that's fine and good. But I agree that things like attacking people or mobs and then saying, "Well, it's not a person, I thought I could attack it" on an RP server won't always fly.
@thugheaven said in Armageddon MUD:
@twinprince You're right, there is a separate forum for people that had complaints about the game. From looking at it though. There haven't really been any complaints on there for some time. I think someone paid attention to the complaints there and started making changes. So the lack of complaints is saying they have made some kind of commitment to making changes and they have.
As far as the 'fee fee' thing that wasn't what I meant. What I meant was, if you make a mistake as a result of you the player not knowing something, other players would likely respond to it IC. Players do take ICA=ICC very serious there. Your natural reaction is going to be something along the lines of "Oh shit! I didn't mean that!" For the most part people would accept that you didn't know and correct you IC. But it's up to you, to come out of your fee fees, and go with it. I even gave a very real example of that. You also have the alternative of breaking character and saying "I didn't know how to address a templar properly, sorry." or just asking out of character. I understood why it was taken that way and apologized for it. It wasn't my intention to come of as condescending at all.
ICA=ICC is fine, so long as you OOCly have the option of garnering IC information.
ICA=ICC is supposed to mean, "If your character shoots a guard, even an NPC guard, then they're going to be treated as a criminal".
Not "If you don't know where the water fountain is and you die, then tough luck."
@thenomain said in Good TV:
@theonceler said in Good TV:it's not set up to do anything that pushes the comfort level of the audience.
Are you suggesting that doing so is inherently bad? I can think of several shows that are all about that, and are quite popular.
@surreality said in Internet Attacks? Why?:
A: "Come fight me bro, I'm at <not his address!>"
B: <contacts C> "Yo, SWAT this address! <provides address provided by A>"
<SWATs address>All three have a part of the responsibility here. A shouldn't be getting a pass.
The tiniest part? Perhaps. Criminal Mischief sort of minor part, though, not the accessory to involuntary manslaughter that people are calling for.
@ganymede The topic at hand is whether the person who the caller thought he was sending swat against, not the person he did call swat against, should face charges.
@surreality said in Internet Attacks? Why?:
@ortallus He didn't even need to know it was a real address, in my book. He pulled a 'come fight me, I'm here'. He literally invited violence to a location, and... yeah, not knowing what it would lead to isn't much of a defense, in my book.
I suppose that's fair. The legitimate thing to do would be to say, "You're an idiot, why would I give you an address?"
@thatguythere said in Internet Attacks? Why?:
@ortallus
Going by what I heard which I am not sure are the full facts the caller was not actually the person who was playing against the person they attempted to swat, but was given the info by someone who was and made the call.
I would say giving the info for the purpose of having the swat take place would be worth prosecuting. If someone drives the car of a bank robbery but never goes inside or even has a weapon they can get popped for murder if the robbers inside shot someone. I would have the guy starting this chain face the same charge as the caller. You don't need intent to be guilty, there is depraved indifference which to me starting a swat in motion counts as.
I do have some empathy for the officer he messed up trying to do his job and I have seen nothing to lead me to believe he had malicious intent so I would leave him to a civil or procedural solution rather than a criminal one.
So, my understanding:
Angry and other were fighting. Other gives address. Angry calls swat.
I've seen nothing to suggest other knew that Angry was going to swat him. Maybe Angry was saying he was going to come to his ass and beat him up, or send his cousin to do so, or something.
So that's what I meant when I said, "Unless evidence is shown that he knew and intended harm on the person at the address he gave...."
@thatguythere said in Internet Attacks? Why?:
@ortallus
It should always be an option, we live in a time when I can get a good look at the situation of a house I have not lived in for 20 plus years because I remember the address.
Now I fully agree that the the caller should be prosecuted, the officer should definitely face a disciplinary hearing though not necessarily criminal prosecution, and the person who supplied the caller with the info to enable the call should also face prosecution.
I'm not entirely convinced on that last part. At least not major prosecution, unless it can be proved that he knew and intended harm on the person living at the address. For all he knew it could have been a made up/non-existent location.
Disciplinary hearing is fine. Investigation is fine. But people are out for that officer's blood without giving him any benefit of the doubt what-so-ever.
I think there are a lot more serious police shooting incidents every year, and people defend the cops. I normally don't. In this one? I'm unconvinced criminal charges or law suits are in order. That doesn't mean I can't BE convinced.
@roz said in Internet Attacks? Why?:
How is it that you're so 100% certain that there were no other options?
100%? No. I admit I have no way of being 100% positive there were no other options. I have to go on faith that the officers involved were doing their best to follow protocol, however, and that, as the articles read, police were still in the process of setting up and doing exactly the things that he's suggesting that they should have done, when the guy came to the door. Which eliminated the possibility of doing those things before the situation was reached.
Yeah, that's probably why he's worried about it happening to his own dogs.
Right. I was agreeing with him and supporting his belief that it was a real and present danger.
@roz said in Internet Attacks? Why?:
@ortallus said in Internet Attacks? Why?:
@zombiegenesis said in Internet Attacks? Why?:
@apu Oh man, that's a brilliant idea. My wife and I only stream occasionally but I think we'll still do that. Honestly, I'm more afraid of getting swatted and one of my dogs being shot than anything else. I'd be devastated if that happens.
Pretty sure that happened a couple times, didn't it?
He meant to his own dogs.
I know. What I'm saying is I'm pretty sure people have been swatted and their dogs were killed because of it.