Posts made by RizBunz

I don't think it matters that players are looking for things that are a bit different. Numbers, groups...yes it's a lot for Staff to deal with, but you also have to understand that PLAYERS can run things for each other, too. As long as people are patient (key word there) and understand that EVERYONE has RL to deal with, then you can have something smooth, inviting, and engaging. Big group, lil group...it's all about support.

Sometimes, Staff doesn't have enough support. On the other hand, sometimes players don't have enough support, either. As a Staffer, Player, Storyteller, I like supporting other's creativity and working with them as best as I possibly can. You're welcomed to play where you want, and should feel that way.

@wizz I love Apoc more than Forsaken, but to each their own wolf-apple.

BUT YES! Whenever anyone talks about WoD, I often point toward Bloodlines as one of the best examples.

I drew a pinup style picture of my very first WoW character (named Rizu, created during the almighty '04 beta). Her rear was very...voluptuous. So, the name stuck.

@thenomain I agree a great deal with what @Warma-Sheen is saying. You can pick and choose, but I've always been a fan of horror (especially classics) and I love the twisting of old stories into something new. The Nod version of Cain's story just...I adore it. I love the supplements that talk about Cain, Kindred, Lilith, and the BSDs (and the wyrm). Hell, even in nWoD I LOVE the scripts about Longinus. I just dig that shiz hardcore.

I also like gritty rp. I like darker elements in rps (and more with that horror) and the ability to play against supernatural elements. I suppose, at the end of the day, it's interesting stories I love the most.

@sunnyj Community. You can easily skip over the odd writer that thinks their outlandish crap is hot shit. People, though...they're harder to look passed, or adjust to the ideal of change. Regardless of the dumpster fire that is the community (not all of it, mind you!) I still adore the theme wholeheartedly.

Update: Locations pending for Montreal Grid (Work has been killing me so I'm a lil behind)

Uptown Montreal-
Montreal Botanical Garden
Olympic Stadium (Big O)

Downtown Montreal-
Old Montreal
McGill University
Mount Royal
Notre Dame Basilica
Montreal Museum of Fine Arts
Montreal Museum of Archeology and History
Jacques Cartier Bridge
City Hall

St. Helen's Island-
Parc Jean-Drapeau

Should this thread be titled something else now?

@ashen-shugar I've been slapped around a bit, but man...who hurt you?

UPDATE: Tried the game suggested to me. It won't be for me, sadly.

@admiral You said the dreaded SH name...don't. I feel dirty.

@Thenomain I think that all swirls back to it being the community at large. I'm not saying I've only been on bad games, either. Sometimes I have so, so much fun, and if I didn't, I wouldn't be begging for an outlet of this world that I love. I get it, and I know in the long run I can't fix it. Not on my own or anything of the like. It deals with people fixing themselves, or how they act, and I suppose everyone has their reasons.

I agree that start and finish are different, too, and very, very long roads to travel.

When you get a bunch of people together, there's no way to avoid conflict all together. Conflict should be fun, is all. I just understand why it wouldn't be to most. I think it's required for a good story, but I also know that not everyone is playing for story. Odd for RPGs, but whatever. You do you, boo. (Not you personally, just in general commentary.)

PS: You're always useful!

@surreality I like that outlook. And it's easy to say that, or make policies that touch into that. It's hard to keep them stapled down, but worth trying to do.

@Thenomain I get that. I guess what I meant was if you can't find fun with the general cliques, you have to find your own tribe in these types of games. It squares people off, and while conflict should be understood and accepted, it kinda grinds gears. People play as they do, and if that's what they enjoy, you're right, you have to accept that (regardless of it being different than your own fun). I just like the idea of people playing together, and not getting twisted up in a bad way over it. Like you said, the drama. Just makes me sad

@Bad-at-Lurking Agreed. The fluff drags me in with oWoD. I ADORE it, greatly, but nWoD does very, very well syntax/system wise. But yeah, I'm in your boat with the running and screaming part.

I'll keep trying, too.

@ixokai Thank you for the link! I'll check it out!

I've really enjoyed the setting's fluff for a VERY long time. I also think it's one of those things that just works better as a tabletop, too. That way, you KNOW who you're playing with.

I like having fun with it. The funnier moments in a system full of screwed up experiences, but yeah...what I wouldn't give to just find a community that isn't so toxic with it. It's amazing stuff to work with, and when new people are interested in it, I often point them in the direction of Bloodlines. I've always considered that to be a fun, rather on point, example of what a GREAT tabletop/MU* setting COULD BE. Under the right alignment of planets and stars and when you finally get that gold plated unicorn to dance the samba at your house at midnight...

I digress. I understand, and agree, with what everyone is saying. It all depends on the fun YOU make for yourself. I have a feeling that even if I go the route of 'This is broke, so I'll try and fix it', I'll still get those people showing up regardless, the community being what it is.

@sunnyj We've thought about it! We have Fallout first, though. Maybe someday.

PS: Sabbat are a MUST.

@bobotron I know I know the truths behind it, I guess I just hoping against hope, y'know?

Is there such thing as a good one? Even nWoD based, is there a game that isn't ripe with infantile player mentalities rolling themselves over with power fantasies?

Is there a game that's a bit more true to form? Where political intrigue and screwing with each other is all ICly done and isn't avoided by, or made moot by:

• OOC complaints/reactions/fits

• Random log-offs and pretending everything is gravy?

• Staff ran where their characters are the best, every time, no questions asked?

Is there a WoD game out there where people are having FUN anymore? Where players are actively allowed, and encouraged, to make changes to the world around them with their characters?

If so...please, please point me in that direction. I have the itch and the Tower is calling me. (Well, the Sword is calling me, to be perfectly honest...)

@thenomain ^_^

This might not work on grid when dealing with some of the creatures caused by the nukes, but it's a beautiful reminder!

Politeness Works Best!

Not to dance about everything else being said, I'll toss in a couple thoughts as a former player.

1. The application process wasn't too hard for me, however, I was lucky enough to find someone I could play and mold a bit, to give them a personality all their own. I got to aid in their evolution, of sorts, and that was fun.

2. Con of that, my husband tried making a character, too, that was FAR LESS complicated than mine. It took weeks for an answer, and he was told to change something (a reason for why some skill was as he suggested it being.) I thought he had a good reasoning for it, but they didn't. The wait time killed his mood for it all.

3. Be in a GOOD timezone for this game. Depending on where you are in the world could GREATLY hinder your play time.

4. Some people have alts that drive /everything/, regardless of your plans or what you'd like to do. This, most of the time, leaves one feeling powerless.

5. Given my character, I reached a stage (quickly) where I could do no more with them. That was a bummer, because I came to love my character.

Oh well. Play if you want. Don't if you don't wanna. I'll leave all other personal opinions to myself, and others with theirs.