Y'all know where to find me.
Presently, I am still Natalia@Arx; it is unlikely I will ever be any other characters, as I'm winding down in the hobby.
Take care out in the big world out there. I'll miss what used to be here.
Y'all know where to find me.
Presently, I am still Natalia@Arx; it is unlikely I will ever be any other characters, as I'm winding down in the hobby.
Take care out in the big world out there. I'll miss what used to be here.
the optics are more important than the protection of real, vulnerable people who had actual bad actions taken towards them
it's pretty simple, dood
Or maybe the person who caused the entire issue to begin with could apologize for their awful behavior and folks could start to move on.
How is the size of the protest proof that it's a problem? How does that even make any sense?
me not letting you punch me in the nose is not bullying no matter HOW many people object to you taking a swing
It has been suggested to me that this may be about Testament instead of Auspice. If that's the case, he quit/took a break because of a RL personal tragedy and it's really really really really really really gross to use him this way if you are.
How is reacting negatively to somebody's cruelty and harassment bullying wtf. Gaslighting nonsense as proof of wrongdoing.
Let me guess, next you're going to use how mean folks are to poor, poor Spider as proof? Or Cullen? Yeah, gosh guys, you REALLY need to be kinder to the bad actors of our hobby that try desperately to ruin it for other people for the FUN of it. How DARE anyone call people out on their actions. How DARE.
Maybe if Auspice didn't want to be "bullied" she should have...
wait for it...
...wait some more...
...stopped bullying other people. Or maybe just, you know, stopped lying about folks? That would have staved off the consequences of her actions for a while.
eta: And that was BEFORE I read the reposted links from Prototart. You'd rather have THAT behavior than people objecting to it?!
Yes. When people do TRULY SHITTY things, there's a group of people here that tend to agree with each other that that shit is shitty. If somebody is mean/nasty/cruel to other people, it is NOT dogpiling or mean to call them out on it. When people misbehave, consequences are not bullying.
Slut shaming definitely gets people "dogpiled". Is dogpiled actually the worse behavior, here?
Unrealistic demands of staff teams also get people "dogpiled", yes.
Poor behavior by admin on games get people "dogpiled", too. Which was once upon a time the whole point of the hogpit.
There's a whole lot of whining by parties that abuse other people that they're not allowed to just abuse other people, and their inability to slut shame or whine about TS is because they're being OPPRESSED or BULLIED.
they're not.
It's probably best just to wait and see until folks have had the chance to calm down and think about things before anyone makes any assumptions about what that should or shouldn't look like. Discussing/arguing it now is rather putting the cart before the horse, I think.
I was there, he hurt me, and he's one of my favorite people in the hobby these days. That is an absolutely untrue statement.
@ganymede said in The Worst Thing You Have Done in this Hobby Thread:
@sunny said in The Worst Thing You Have Done in this Hobby Thread:
And: I participated in PillowFort.
Remember when PillowFort ran me out of Denver by going to the owner?
Yeah, good times.
No, I actually don't. I don't even remember who the owner was any more. I do remember fairly shortly into the Denver stint is when I had my first round of PF blowups, but I don't know if that was or wasn't connected to you. I was in the midst of being a survivor during that time period, so a LOT a lot is completely gone from my brain. I stopped looking at logs a couple of years ago to quit torturing myself with memories that didn't serve me any purpose.
@buttercup said in The Worst Thing You Have Done in this Hobby Thread:
@sunny You done some heavy crap!
Yeah, it's why I say that most everything in this hobby, you can come back from. If I can be reformed, I'm pretty sure most folks that aren't actively, intentionally malicious could be.
closed the sabbat on due rewards WHILE THERE WERE STILL ACTIVE PLAYERS
also, PK'd a PC with my PC via telenuke while I was staff of a sphere because I couldn't get rid of her as staff. I think that one was Denver.
Also, I didn't get rid of the clique that shall not be named on Ashes until it was far, far, far, far too late. And: I participated in PillowFort.
Thanks, I should be able to get around it, with that! I figured there'd be a few things busted with the move, also figured reporting it was the way to go.
Get an error every time I try to upload a new profile picture; it says permission denied at copying from temp -> profile. May be because I used the picture editor, will report back on that, just realized. eta: nope, even without any playing with the image.
I can imagine how you feel and I am so glad for it being ear goop treatable.
I agree that it just comes down to matching expectations between player and GM. There's simply nothing inherently correct about one way or the other, because it depends so heavily on the circumstances and people involved. If a GM doesn't know how to deal with (or doesn't want to) a minmaxed player at their table, then the minmax is a problem. If the GM runs their table with the expectation that players all minmaxed, Becky's professional skill: basketweaving points are just going to screw her in unpleasant fashion.
Inherently, though? There's no value attached to one way or the other.
I don't think anyone thinks it's easy, I think it's more that folks from the outside looking in are absolutely sure that, given what you've said, it's necessary. There's not a lot of frills or caveats being added because folks feel you absolutely 100% need to get out for your own safety and well being, and you're talking about it to people who are emotionally invested in your health.
Midway through Stormblood on an alt right now, and I ran into some dialogue that made me think it was Endwalker foreshadowing. Finished the stuff, switched over to my main, went to the place -- yup. I was not imagining it, it totally was.
They are REALLY good at their continuity, I have to say.
(I HIGHLY recommend, if you've finished Endwalker, do a non-quest tour of the realm. There are a LOT of people who have a LOT of really cool things to say to you.)
Look, back when I ran games, I almost always had at least one or two staff members on my teams who were part of that "couldn't ST their way out of a wet paper bag" party. At least half of those people, it was NOT for lack of trying, let me tell you. Somebody around here could probably tell you all stories about the stories that my psychedelic coder ran. They weren't good. We made her stop. But these people, they contributed in their ways, a lot of them VERY significantly. See: coder.
You can say the same for players and the ones that run PRPs and those that don't. Those that don't, most of them aren't just logging in to passively consume. They ARE bringing value to the games they play on, most of them.
The automated prompts thought is great. I bet it would be possible to create some pretty incredible choose your own adventure, and I know of at least one game that's working on randomly generated dungeons PCs will be able to go do. Seeking alternatives that solve the problem -- more Things to Do -- is a far more likely to succeed endeavor than shaming people into running things.