@faraday said in How to Escape the OOC Game:
Enigmas can be off-putting, especially when so may folks have been burned by creepers in the past.
^ This. Building on what you said here...
What people don't necessarily understand -- unless it has happened to them -- is how persistent some of these people can be.
I mentioned an example earlier in the thread of someone (Jeurg) who I had never heard of when I played on TR, since I never played on HM and was not active at the time. Being someone who are chill on a game as being chill until they're not, when he mentioned this, it was a case of 'oh, whatever, you seem chill to me, I have no idea who that is'. And I found out the hard way. I also saw first hand as he talked about someone who had put out a 'no contact' with him on HM and had it enforced, and how he'd figured out who they were on TR. He immediately went to join the faction they were in and was needling at them -- gleefully. I don't believe he understood at all that this did not impress me and I did not think it was cute, clever, or some sign of how awesome he was.
I played with someone for ages on Shang, who then turned out to be so possessive they made the idea of even being in a room with another player there, on TR, or on BITN, a very anxiety-laden experience, even if I was just sitting there idle for 12 hours when they popped in to give me crap about what I was supposedly actively doing. (Idling, duh.) And gods help me I unidled. (Normally, I was chilling with Ghost talking OOC about horror movies through the day while he was at work -- pretty sure he remembers this craziness.) This person would, on Shang when CG was easy and open, create unknown-to-me logins simply to go to wherever I was and sit there silently and watch what I did. This was less obvious in big public areas than it was, say, when he'd send one into a cafe where two people were talking over dinner. (Which he also did.) I would get crazy abusive RL emails and text messages from this person -- once involving dozens of texts calling me a slut/whore/traitorous harlot/etc. for, no joke, hugging someone in a public place and saying, "I haven't seen you in ages!"
Someone I played with all the way back in the 90s and was entirely normal at the time? Has started behaving in an abusive manner toward me over the last few years, from out of nowhere, because we have barely had any contact at all between now and then. This persisted to chasing me here to vomit abusive delusions at me that are, frankly, genuinely frightening. Ark and Gany have been champs handling this and they deserve a fuckin' medal, for real. This guy and his penchant for making new accounts once he's banned and PMing from them is... well, see sig. This person is local, knows where I am, and is apparently already known to law enforcement. I had to report this person to law enforcement myself.
So, y'all... it can get bad. I am not trying to throw the bucket of cold water on good feelings here. I am saying: do not underestimate or dismiss concerns when people have them. I am not talking about a few creepy pages in an OOC room where someone says something skeevy, you pagelock them, and you're done[1]. A lot of folks seem to think that's all there is to these concerns when people bring them up, and that is simply not the case.
I know I am not the only one with stories like these. I've heard similar things privately over the years to be tragically aware of that. People tend not to talk about them, because they are scary, they are ashamed of having trusted this person at some point, that they just want it all to be over, and for a variety of other reasons. I have chosen to talk about these things openly because I know I'm not the only one they happen to. (Of all my various and sundry hills to die on, this is the mountain.)
That we regularly only hear about the intermittent bout of creepy pages or come-ons makes it seem to many that this is all that's happening. To be clear: if that traumatizes someone, that trauma is real, and should be respected as such. Truth is, it rarely will. But here's the problem: those are the stories we hear. Those are the issues most folks are able to handle, and in most cases know are not something that's going to considerably scramble their brains or bring on panic attacks or similar.
That, unfortunately, makes it easier than it should be to hand-wave off as 'no big deal' when people talk about creeping or stalking or harassment, period. Because these examples are the ones we hear about on the daily. Are they more common? Absolutely. But they aren't 'as far as it goes'. We would all do very well to remember that, and not automatically assume they're talking about a few pages in an OOC room about how someone wants to bang their hot PB.
- Please note: I am not saying this is 'nothing' or 'not important'. If this happens, report that shit! It is a completely valid issue.