Best posts made by ThugHeaven

I'd be willing to help out on a Shadowrun Mu*. I built a grid for a Shadowrun New York that never happened. I haven't mushed in a long time, but I'd be willing to help out.

Jacksonville is playing surprisingly well.

@roz It is a fair concern and I've already said things like that don't happen as much as they used to, if at all. But at the same time, its a game where there is documentation that tells you how to behave and what you should and shouldn't and there's lots of it. So it is ICA=ICC.

So here's a little anecdote: My very first character. I decided to play an assassin, I walked into the local tavern and said something to the effect of "Hey where's the local assassin's guild?" Well there is no local assassin's guild and like most games, you really shouldn't be telling people you are an assassin. So two guys say "Sure, we'll take you to the assassin's guild." I follow them and they slap me around a little bit and then have me join what is the city's crime organization. So I could've been in my fee fees and been all "Oh no, I didn't mean that, my character would know not to say that." But I rolled with it and it actually turned out to my benefit. Now might there be players that will take your mistake and run with it? It's unlikely, but it's a possibility.

I get that people have valid concerns and even objections. I'm ok with that. I also get that it's not a game for everybody, that's not why I'm here. I'm advertising for the people the game is for.

I also get that things happened in the past to people, that don't happen anymore. That's what I'm doing. What I'm not doing is calling people pansies or saying it's not for anybody, that's for every individual to decide.

@Jennkryst said:

SHADOWRUN ON BOATS

I pushed for a Shadowrun: Miami years ago. City, swamp, gators, voodoo, drugs, pirates, glamour. definitely would've been a different flavor.....and pretty awesome.

@wretched
Right! I love Cardi B, Migos, etc. There’s nothing wrong with that kind of music. Sometimes you feel like listening to something ratchet.

My concern is that that’s all they play on the radio. But radio is crappy any station you turn to these days. Thank god for Spotify. My concern is also that there is a generational thing happening here where that older generation “Run DMC” is becoming crotchety and alienating the youth by saying “What are you doing to my music!?” When there is good hip hop being made still.

That’s not good either.

@twinprince All of that stuff might’ve happened in the past and maybe some of that stuff might’ve happened to you. I’m just a player that enjoys the game. So, since this is the advertising forum it might be better for you to air out the game’s dirty laundry in the hog pit. I’m just here to field simple questions and give some of my experiences.

And yes, all of those things are from a different era. The staff you mentioned aren’t even a part of the game any more and haven’t been for some time. From looking at the forum you keep mentioning., I’ve noticed most of recent, recent to me means the last few months, there haven’t been any real criticism and just incoherent rants and trolling.

@Ghost you stole my concept you bastard!

Can I be her black jewtina sister?

Nobody's watching True Detective? The last three or four episodes have been fantastic! I can only describe this season as post-modern noir.

I understand the theme of these forums and I know that most people here wouldn’t be interested in a game like Armageddon. It’s not against the rules to advertise a Mud here. So I posted not for the “How dare you post a Mud here! This is our forum!” people, I posted for the people that might say “Hm...that could be interesting.” I know it’s not an easy game to play and that might not appeal to everybody that visits. But it might appeal to some.

My intention wasn’t to marginalize people that have had something they didn’t like happen to their characters either. My intention was simply to say if you do make an ooc mistake, it IS ok to say “I didn’t know I wasn’t supposed to say that”. You are able to say I made a mistake and people would take that at face value that you DID make a mistake. I see people do that all the time now. That seems to be a big concern and understandably so. If you don’t know something you can ask while you’re playing. If you’re curious about something in the world or a command you can ask that too.

What I was trying to get across is: Some people won’t break character to show you the right thing to do or say. That’s one of the essentials of good story telling right? Show don’t tell. I know it can feel like it’s a personal affront to you the player, but most people aren’t doing it to make you feel bad or silly or haze newbies. Give it a chance because it might lead you somewhere good.

The Templar you pissed off by not paying the respect you were supposed to show, could lead you into a plot against the same Templar. So your newbie mistake pulled you into an active plot. So try not to say, “I’m new, I didn’t know...” go with it and see where it takes you.

@Ghost give me a few days and lots of drugs and I can make it happen.

Black jewtina first though.

I caught a couple of episodes of Dark Matter on Netflix. Not sure if it was mentioned before, but if it was I second it. I can't wait to get home and watch a couple episodes today.

Sidebar: why do Canadians do really great sci-fi on a budget?

@faraday

I never insisted it was the only way to tell a story. I also never insisted anyone was a wussy. I’m not even trying to make this a Mud vs Mush argument. I happen to be the type of woman that enjoys playing both. They both have their merits and they both have their flaws. The philosophy of storytelling isn’t what I posted this for either. I’m just saying what the philosophy to storytelling there is. If that’s not your cup of tea, that’s fine I can accept that. The thing is I keep trying to convey this.... you can make mistakes and not get punished.

We didn't get a chance to interact as much as I'd have liked, but gonna miss you.

@Coin said:

Lost Girl is ending this season, too. Here's hoping they go out with a bang.

Oh god, lost girl is my guilty pleasure and what I imagine every WoD is like. I can't say I'm happy with the wanderer storyline, but I have to finish it.

@SG I think you're right it could go either way. It's just what I'm hoping for....
Yeah, I don't want to spoil it so far either.

See how ranty Hedge sounds? Those are for the most part the people that are gone from the game.

I think “real life got me” is a pretty valid reason. I was playing a game where at the time, I got off work at 10 pm and it really felt like I was playing catch-up or people were winding their own RP down. Since that has changed, I still haven’t been back though.

Other reasons I can think of off the top of my head:

Incompetent/shady staff. I’ll give a couple examples of this one.

One game, I was a new player. I log on and start asking questions about the game and world. The head staffer says “Hey, I know the org that’ll be just right for you!.....and why don’t you LEAD it?” Of course I don’t think that’s a good idea because, I’m new to the game, I’m not very familiar with the system and there’s already people that were trying to get the position he was trying to throw me into.

It went over about as well as I thought it would. Players that were supposed to be my minions didn’t want to rp with me because of perceived favoritism (when I didn’t even know this guy), I struggled with the game’s commands and the same staffer was really whiny on pub. I think I lasted about two weeks.

This next one was a little different. I join a game, good group of players, really good time. My character dies; no biggie, I’ll roll up another one. The staffer asks me to play a role. Sure I’m up for it. The role required some staff support and I’m assured I’ll get it. It was one of those “if you write it and I approve it, I’ll put it in, if not I’ll kick it back to you make some changes.” type of deals. I get back in the game and the role has nothing, I’m going to need heavy support. People want to buy stuff immediately and I take the orders. Send them to staffer and weeks go by, more people order stuff, nothing....I ping him, hey where’s my stuff?

Now an aside here: I’ve staffed before and I know on games like this, it literally takes 30 seconds to load up objects that are already in the DB. Something is wrong here.

Staffer gets back to me. “Oh, sorry....it’s mainly just me handling things. I’m pretty overwhelmed....blah blah, woe is me overwhelmed staffer.” He also whined about other players to me. If you haven’t noticed by now....not really a fan of staffers who complain to players. Especially when I know what they’re saying just...isn’t true and I’m thinking what are they saying about me behind my back? Also when he finally does get around to load up the things that only take 30 secs to load, he doesn’t load up enough of them. So I have to hound him again for the rest.

Other greatest hits from this guy include: bragging on the game’s forum about loading up a custom squirrel fur bikini for a player because that just tickled him so much. Meanwhile, the things I wrote up, things my org needed to run, that were absent from the game were ignored and called “flavor items”. Guess I didn’t write them up sexy enough or funny enough.

Long story short....yeah, I left there without a word too.

@tragedyjones I just started watching that and it's pretty intriguing.

The argument has been new players are punished for mistakes and no they aren’t. If that’s the circular argument then yes it will continue to rage on, because the people that play now say it doesn’t happen.

The only way to find out is to actually play and make a mistake isn’t it? That would pretty much solve that debate. If this is truly about the game in its current state or “neener neener, I just want to see a spectacle” we’ll be able to find out that simply.

The thing with poorly played wallflower/shy/edgelurd is they tend to fall into the same traps. They tend to fall into the too much, not enough trap. Then they slide away from character and right into caricature, which makes playing with them give you an eye twitch sometimes.

What it comes down to is the disconnect we have between the character we sometimes envision and what we’re conveying. With certain tropes, I think they’re attractive because of their potential, but sometimes players think, “Imma do this thing, and imma do this thing, but my thing is gonna be different because....” and this is where the too much comes in. They’re too much of the thing and they never can get to the awesomeness because, they haven’t really endeared themselves to anyone. Also, a lot of the awesomeness happens in their background, things that really have the potential to explore with other people.

So here’s where the not enough comes in.They’ve focused so much on that one emotion they forgot about the other ones that make them people. The difference between a good “insert tired trope” here and a bad one is, somebody preferably several somebody’s see another side another aspect that makes people wonder “Am I judging them wrong?” That’s probably what they’re going for.

Some people just never quite get there. Take some of the real life villains from this forum. Reading the stories are interesting as hell to me. One thing they all have in common is their ability to make people say “Naw! Not them!” Until it’s too late!

OMG Mr. Robot! Why are you doing this to me? I need another episode now!