The only way I could get it to work properly on macOS is by replacing the hopelessly out of date system TK bundle with something up to date, such as ActiveTK (which I believe is still free for development use), then downloading the UNIX source for Potato (not the Mac binary) and running the script manually. It works but it's a PITA. You'll probably be better off switching to Atlantis.

Well, I've been pretty remiss here. Since my last post, we've been through .297, .298, and .299, and here we are at 4.00.300!

If you haven't been keeping up otherwise, here's what you've missed out on:

4.00.297 (2020-7-4)

Added Donate link on About screen, plus Help->Donate... menu item (So for those of you asking about making donations, here you go!) Merged About and Welcome windows to just the About window Added 'all' parameter to disconnect and reconnect to make things consistent and flexible Fixed a bug in Pueblo tag parsing where relative font sizes were treated as absolute (so <font size=+2> was size=2). They're ignored now. Fixed a maps bug where 'Set Text Color...' didn't work on labels Fixed a glitch where zero sizing a docked pane makes it lose its title bar Fixed a crash if docking a zero height window

4.00.298 (2020-7-28)

Added GMCP protocol support Added subset of MCSP protocol support (Mud Client * Sound Protocol) -- just the basic load/play/stop commands. Added WebP image link detection for the image viewer Fixed potential race condition in async downloads (Might explain some image viewer glitches/crashes) Fixed bug with puppets on startup, where puppets might not link with their character and will not function Fixed crash in maps when trying to undo/redo an operation that is not on the map that is currently visible

4.00.299 (2020-8-11)

Fixed a small annoyance with spawn captures, by killing any active ones on disconnect and after a restore log replay Fixed store issue where the configuration can't be saved if the app is installed on a different drive (thank you Dranyth!) Fixed a bug where MCSP sounds can hang when disconnecting Fixed a bug where // to bypass command processing both sends and processes the command (which doesn't recognize it, so you get an error)

AND NOW

4.00.300 (2020-9-24)

Added Important Activity notification in trigger actions (number in red box on the tab) (So you can set things up to be told which activity you really care about) Added screen reader support for the output window (one big step towards visually impaired usability) Added 'beip.stats' GMCP package (see documentation) Added '/repeat' command to easily repeat something multiple times Added '/naws' command to send a telnet NAWS (Negotiate About Window Size) Added repeating timer support to '/delay' plus ability to kill individual timers Added imgur link handling to the image preview window (it's a hack but it works) Tweaked hash trigger coloring to be on the text being replaced, not just the first subexpression matched (Now if you're looking for the same word in different contexts in one regex, it will come out in the same colour in each! Bug introduced with using it with the 'whole line' recolouring, which will be working properly again in 301.) Changed tab control to have a modern flat look (mostly visible with tabbed spawn windows) (Better matching the rest of the previous design adjustments!) Changed tabbed spawn windows to have no outer padding (Saves space!) Changed Pueblo links to show what will be sent, and to add it to the input history when sent Fixed bug with restore log repair: when deleting unused restore log entries it would change the order of existing entries Fixed a bug copying a server in the connection dialog: it would copy the restore log entries and cause a repair leading to the previous bug Fixed a bug in ansi code parsing with ansi reverse: any color changes within the reversed block had foreground/background swapped Fixed a crash when closing a window with splitters in the text windows

Due to several requests over time, as well as the ability to donate via subscription in the program itself, there now is a Patreon! If you can't or aren't inclined toward that, one can always feel free to express appreciation by dropping by the Discord to tell the dev 'thanks'. Or to ask for new/adjusted features. Tomayto, tomahto...

As always, if you don't have it or it hasn't updated itself yet, you can grab the current version from the Microsoft Store (preferred), or alternatively from the github.

Enjoy!

Sometimes I read on the phone, sometimes on the computer, and for a while, each would track the last post I read on them... so if I only read to page 5 on the phone, read to page 10 on the computer, then went back to phone, it would dump me to page 5.

It stopped at some point, and I think it started again, I'll experiment more.

I’m told by @skew that the curl doesn’t always work or stopped working or something. I will try wget as mentioned here when I can: https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-install-mediawiki-on-ubuntu-1804/#install-mediawiki

Oh that! Ok. Thanks! :)

@skew Thank you!

@ziggurat @Thenomain updated instructions, and my notes above (maybe back a page?) built on that.

Check it out here: https://musoapbox.net/topic/138/zero-to-mux-with-wiki/41

@coin SimpleMU works under wine but it's just slow sometimes even on pretty high-end desktops.

It's the mysql.h, probably.

The 'do the secure installation' step that is now recommended does something that changes the standard permissions that tinymux expects when it comes time to configure it.

I know I managed to fix it once. I do not for the life of me remember how, but it wasn't any of the things recommended on the thread to fix the mysql.h issue, because none of those worked for me at all.

It may have been some kind of worst practice hail mary I yanked out of my ass, so I don't recall, unfortunately, what it was. It was a permissions issue, that much I do remember. Whether it involved changing the permissions on the directory where the file was housed or the file itself, and what I ended up changing them to, unfortunately, I do not remember. :/

I know that isn't much help, but maybe with that information some of the people who actually know what they're doing can help narrow it down.

ETA: For the tech people: If this is a digitalocean install, mysql.h is there, and it is installed. The permissions are just locked down in such a way that tinymux can't access it to use it to do anything -- which may be only after the 'mysql_secure_installation' step, but even if you did this after setting up tinymux you'd run into the same issue later -- so tinymux acts like it isn't there because it can't see or use it.

ETA2: Mediawiki 1.30.0, the current version, is fussy and different in some new and interesting ways. Be advised if you're using code from an earlier iteration or planning to import. Apparently a lot of stuff deprecated between versions 29 and 30 and you will probably need to tweak your stuff. Depending on how much you fuss with things, this may be no big deal.

(I know I found the stuff they're starting to add in so egregiously annoying I gave up on using Vector entirely and started building a new skin during the time I can't really do anything else productive (while this comp is on its last teetering legs and we settle in for the long wait for its replacement).)

That is super helpful! Thank you so much! :D

@golgoth said in Digger: A graphic room editor for MUX/MUSH:

/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages

/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/

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I went into the 'site-packages' directory for Python3 and copied PyQt5/ to Python2's. Hey, at least it's now failing creatively:

$ python main.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "main.py", line 8, in <module> from PyQt5 import QtCore, QtGui ImportError: dlopen(/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyQt5/QtCore.so, 2): Symbol not found: _PyBytes_AsString Referenced from: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyQt5/QtCore.so Expected in: flat namespace in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/PyQt5/QtCore.so

I have tried and failed to install PyQt4 from the official site, as it complains that it can't find qmake, and I can't find an install for qmake except via the qt-devel library. Until I become a more capable developer, I will now leave this in the hands of other people, and let this thread get back on track.

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For those now afraid to try out Digger, I am only having these issues on macOS. Try it out!

@skew said in HOW-TO: Reneg on a promise to write an AWS How-To:

What is this thread?
[...]
I'm lost.

Hey, buddy! Welcome to the thread!
This is a followup on my other thread here: http://musoapbox.net/topic/1546/aws-amazon-web-service-as-mu-hosting/
People had expressed interest there, and in PMs, and in chats elsewhere, about what I did to get a MUSH up on AWS Free Tier. I had told them that I would write a how-to... But as said, the guidance I could give was insufficient to mitigate the potential risks of a mistake.

@Cheesegrater above has a good breakdown of how to avoid those problems. It's much less dire, given that info... but given all the other options at comparable cost, it's just not worth the potential trouble to me. If/when I go to Linode or whatever, I'll write that how-to instead.

So that's what this is!

@Scorn said in Basic Anomaly +Jobs Functions:

Maybe I'm crazy. I probably am. (Okay, definitely.) But I'm curious.. how difficult would it be to configure the list of displayed jobs (i.e. when you type +jobs) to include the name of the submitting player as well as bucket, job name, due date, assigned, status?

(Ssssh, I'm not supposed to post.)

But this is actually already a function. You just change your &jobs me=<stuff>. For example: &jobs me=BOTD will give you bucket, opened by, title, and date. &jobs me=BOTDS gives bucket, opened by, title, date, status.

In fairness, the suggestion I have for someone to be able to common sense fix the problem the current mediawiki install has on digital ocean is not a best practice.

I am reasonably sure there's a more secure way to do it than the one I laid out through some back end, and the one provided does absolutely have risks (and big ones).

For someone without heavy duty SQL/mediawiki/server experience, however, it works and will fix the problem without incident most of the time. That describes me, really. I only know the fix because I ran into the same problem, and after digging around about how to go about it, that was the only answer I found.

At some point, you have to do what works and hope for the best, especially when the argument about how to get something done takes up more time than researching how and getting it done.

@Seamus
Can you link us to one that has the 'dark' look you want?

@mietze We also appear, at least many of us, to be more incapable of giving a fuck. X place is bad? Eh. Quitting is easier these days, far more things competing for our attention.

And then love and adoration of my players as they read their wiki in Snipple?

Victory.