Jul 12, 2017, 9:19 PM

@Ganymede said in RL Anger:

@surreality said in RL Anger:

As an addendum to the 'babe in the woods' thing: @Kanye-Qwest and I have certainly had our share of snarling at each other. She had a legit question about something a while ago that could be taken as this sort of thing -- but she did a damn fine job of being clear that wasn't her intention in any way and I had zero problem taking her at her word and made sure to say as much. If somebody has a genuine question, and isn't playing stupid 'gotcha' games, it's often very evident. Hence the 'I am not taking @kk's question as an innocent inquiry'.

Now, let me show you where I am confused.

Your response raises a whole bunch of questions:

  • What "legit question" are you talking about?
  • What do you mean by "this sort of thing"?

The legit question was an unrelated thing in another thread a while ago. @Kanye-Qwest and I have gone at each other before; it would be easy to take that question in a snarky light. She was clear that she didn't intend it that way, and I took her at her word that she had no ill intent, and the question was something she was legitimately curious about. I answered the question, made clear I could easily understand why someone would ask, and assured that I did not take it as anything nasty.

'This sort of thing' = asking a question that could be taken as an insult in sheep's clothing.

As far as I can tell, you went ape when @kk said:

I am quite baffled. I believe that you argued that threads shouldn't be derailed over this stuff and yet here you are four days later on another thread still complaining that people didn't like that word being used.

The accusation here is that you said that threads shouldn't be derailed over whether someone should or should not be insulted over something. You responded by saying, in paraphrase, that threads shouldn't be derailed unless you happen to be in the right forum for derailment.

...er, discussing things that make us angry RL in the RL Anger thread is not, in any way, derailing the thread. This shit makes people angry, RL. This is a thread for things that make people angry RL.

See where I'm confused? You want to avoid discussions of gender politics on game forums because you face it on a daily basis, and she apologized for doing so. And then she points out that you're engaging in a discussion (kind of) regarding sexist slurs, and you elect to find some sort of grudge in it. I understand that there's a difference here, but @kk literally hadn't said anything for five days, and not even in the same thread.

I think that's the disconnect.

I don't care if it's going on on the forum somewhere.

I am tired of it overriding every thread that is supposed to be about games.

I even suggested a thread be started to discuss instances of and issues with this on games -- which it does, and is a subject worth discussing, and which I wouldn't have done if I didn't think the topic should ever arise on MSB.

It's like the 4channers and their 'we're going to throw around slurs in every thread, which will instantly derail that thread into an argument about the use of that slur instead of the actual thread topic'. It's why I kept mentioning that particular crew and that tendency.

In their case, their 'cause' was a steaming pile of excrement, and in this one, the cause is one I actually support, but it doesn't change the fact that there's a commonality in an end result of many conversations or discussions that are arguably supposed to be about problems on a game becoming about that issue instead, and the 'good' or 'bad' of the cause doesn't really have any bearing on that 'instant override' being wearisome.