Posts made by deadculture

@Kanye-Qwest I prefer to provide a listening ear. I have a hard time with conveying sympathy in any way other than listening, or providing my presence as an audience. Sometimes best, since foot in mouth can and does happen.

@Apos I will be more than happy to say it was unhelpful; the sort of conversation where you relate your negative experiences about violence doesn't tend to be the positive discussion type, anyhow. In those cases, sometimes it's best to just let go of the urge to talk about it and wait until the topic changes.

@Apos I think you and I will diverge on what constitutes harm in regards to this issue. I will say this: it didn't seem to work in this instance. And the moment mocking starts, one could just assume a rhetorical stance in which their initial premise becomes more and more extreme, to provide a counterpoint to your attempt to jar them out of their viewpoint. Which is a dick move in the realm of argumentation, but then, so is being mocked. I find being objective and framing the argument you want to drive forwards within the context it is meant, without attacking the individual, to be more effective.

I think you defeat that sort of lapse in rationale with good arguments, not mockery.

Mockery only serves to infuriate and dig one's personal view further into a trench.

And I don't think @Derp was being willfully cruel; I think he missed the part where context matters to the discussion at hand, that this individual had no prior contact with @mietze, and that he out of the blue decided to show up at her workplace. I would have felt unsafe, whether or not I had been the victim of assault or not.

If @mietze had no contact with this individual prior to that, it is admittedly something extremely unsettling to say the least, especially if he admitted to arranging it beforehand. Further, who the fuck has the lack of social graces to think hitting someone up for conversation 30 years later is a good idea?

@somasatori Quite possibly.

@Duntada Janitors in SS13 are what stands between a well armed traitor and the rest of the crew.

@Packrat Space Psychic, Space Cyborg, Space Samurai (as in cyberpunk Street Samurais), Space Decker.

Space Janitors.

@Roz Note my edit. I confused #yesallmen with #yesallwomen.

And I should have also added this:

https://storify.com/lilithabs/yesallmen

@Roz said in RL Anger:

@deadculture said in RL Anger:

As for #notallmen, that came out after Elliot Rodger killed many people in Isla Vista, since #yesallmen was a hashtag that a subset of social media feminists used to say all men are responsible for his actions, et cetera.

That is incorrect for both of those hashtags.

Really? Hm.

https://tagdef.com/yesallmen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings - May 23th, 2014

EDIT: I see what happened. I thought of #yesallwomen, but #yesallmen is just the response to it anyway, and related to the former.

@Sunny Nobody is saying the fact you've been assaulted is offensive to their sensibilities. That is not what the argument(s) were about.

Moreover, while you have a viewpoint of someone who has experienced abuse in such a physical way, others have experienced abuse in other ways as well. Sometimes their experiences will cause their opinions to differ from yours. You should not take your opinion as having been dismissed or marginalized; people who acknowledge your point will sometimes still want to argue it, to provide a devil's advocate argument or perhaps to make their own stance on such things known.

As for #notallmen, that came out after Elliot Rodger killed many people in Isla Vista, since #yesallmen was a hashtag that a subset of social media feminists used to say all men are responsible for his actions, et cetera. Another unimpressive MRA shit.

@Misadventure Fading Suns has systems in place to resolve mass combat, 7th Sea has systems in place for naval combat, mass combat, estate management and others. Pendragon had a yearly system for estate management with random event checks.

I haven't checked the Game of Thrones system yet, but that one might have it also.

@Vorpal Thank you for sharing that. It was very insightful, on the nature of Ecuador. I have experiences on government-level corruption as well, and have experienced a similar culture to 'How can I take advantage of this'. It's interesting that Ecuador still hasn't privatized some sectors like telecommunications, which seems out of step in regards to the other South American countries, but a big, corrupt government tends to want to keep such things for itself.

@Arkandel Was there any intention on the thief's part to pay? And I am sad your father was forced to leave the union because everyone else was corrupt. Not a good situation to be in.

@Kanye-Qwest said in RL Anger:

The Daily Mail, natch! Well, clearly you've thought this out and you weren't just being smug and racist. Carry on!

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/major-donors-consider-funding-black-lives-matter-215814
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/?page=all

I don't think anyone can be more smug than you, ma cheri.

As for racism, that's funny when the accusation comes from the white girl. How's that working for you?

@Kanye-Qwest The misguided way they go about their cause, and how easy they become pawns to third party interests. I do not trust nor believe the legitimacy of any group who is funded by some of the more wealthy individuals. How they shut down conversation. See:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html

There's such a thing as fighting discrimination, and many ways one can do so from the ground up, individually or as a group. Getting George Soros' money is not one of them, not to mention hypocritical.

@Kanye-Qwest No, I think I was making a pointed remark about you, (and the mention of ravages of time was perhaps not well put, so let me make it crystal clear: these days, intellectual maturity is lacking and people would rather put their fingers in their ears and go 'lalala' than hearing an argument opposite to their view) but if the shoe fits...

@Vorpal Interesting. Was that why Ecuador switched to the American dollar as their national currency? To make money laundering easier, anyhow. How come there hasn't been a government to at least clean things up? Is it a shameless, kleptocratic oligarchy as with the rest of the continent? In the sense that anyone who tries to make a change (Argentina excluded), ends up killed or worse.

@Vorpal Most South American nations are like that, sadly.

@Coin My heart goes out to Ecuadoreans. Natural disasters are never a good thing and if I was in a position of help, I would. Those earthquakes in developing countries tend to be more unforgiving than places where emergency services and a framework to tend to victims of said disasters is in place.

@Kanye-Qwest My friends can make arguments that do not involve emotional appeals and they do not get mad at the slightest whiff of disagreement. When we talk, we talk as equals, not with the presumption we are right and the other party is wrong. You know, a social skill that should have been acquired with adulthood, but somehow has been lost to the ravages of time.

Well, that ended in an interesting way.