@Thenomain said in FS3:
To complicate the statistical issue, a perception check: The "I'm Failing Too Much" is an ongoing issue, possibly due to confirmation bias.
See, @WTFE is going on about failing too often, and yet I have yet to fail a roll, even in PvP. So, I mean, something has to be wrong.
But I think that's exactly the problem that some folks are complaining about. He "should have" beat you. He certainly "shouldn't have" lost 5-0. Just as @Auspice's char "should've" cleaned my char's clock in the marksmanship contest.
I don't think I expressed myself clearly. What I meant to say was that I had a 2-dice edge over the other PC on every roll, but that does not mean I should have blanked him out. I think I had 8 dice and he had 6. He should have taken one, maybe two rolls, but he took zero: I made 10 successive successful contested rolls.
Also, my message was kind of satirical, kind of mocking. So, don't take it as a serious knock on FS3. It could have been blind, dumb, Gany-loving luck.
I get that for whatever reason you hate this system. More power to you. It just seems a little weird.
I could be wrong, but my understanding is that @WTFE has no love for FS3 2E because it was hard to succeed in it. Apparently, @faraday fixed this in FS3 3E, which @WTFE has no experience with. But he'll still knock a game with FS3 because of his experience with 2E.
This is fine, actually, given that FS3 3E is only available on BSG:U. So, if another game has FS3, it is probably 2E. The beef isn't weird to me -- I think I get it -- but it's hard to sift through it because @WTFE apparently doesn't communicate clearly.
@aria said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
I really, really feel like we could just use a collective National Mom (tm) who is sick of everyone's shit and prepared to give anyone within earshot a piece of her mind.
We could all use some more Judy Greer.
@The-Sands said in FS3:
In fact in some ways it might even be clearer to the people playing. While they might not understand exactly how 75% came about (though that can be pretty easily explained) the fact that they are given a clear percentage chance for success would probably offset some of the situations where people think that because they've got 11 dice and the other person has 9 their odds of success should be around 80% when it is actually only about 70%.
Have you ever played XCOM? It pissed the shit out of me when I would have a stated 85% to succeed, and then didn't. Because, fuck, really?
Some people like transparency, statistics, and all of that. A lot of people, I'll wager, don't give a shit. That's why nWoD and other RPGs persist because, as @Thenomain points out, good writing overcomes shitty mechanics.
I wish I knew how to share my photos somewhere so I can link them here because my fuzz-kids have made me so much more mellow.
I'll bet y'all motherfuckers noticed.
@Lithium said in CofD and Professional Training:
The problem comes down to /players/ who abuse/break the rules, and the staff has to be willing to show those types to the door. At least in my opinion, because a problem player or three can chase people away from a game just as easily as bad staffers can.
And this, we definitely agree on.
@Ghost said in CofD and Professional Training:
So in this, a massive social monkey character who didn't spend points in socialize shouldn't be very good at socializing, dice rolls or no. The stat isn't there. But in many cases what I see are highly sociable characters with no dots in skills they RP their chars appear to be very good at, but disnt take the skill because they needed the dice for other rolls that they would need more frequently...like claymore fencing for auto damage.
What I got from your post -- this especially -- is that Professional Training should be taken out because incompetent players will abuse it. This seems reasonable, but it defies the maxim of not setting policy to cater to the lowest common denominator.
That said, I still think it ought to be limited to a mortals-only game.
@Ghost said in A Constructive Thread About People We Might Not Like:
I have this habit of typing things that are philosophical in my head, so I should clarify. The purpose behind that comment was to more philosophically ask: "Okay, so you really dislike her, but what's the point in just complaining and avoiding, what's your end game? You either DO something about it, or learn the risk factors and mitigate it."
The only justice we can ever hope for in this hobby is for people to learn their lessons and pass on their wisdom.
That's what I'm doing here.
@Thenomain said in A Constructive Thread About People We Might Not Like:
Maybe some guilty people should, but this is less treatment and more a movement, building over years. The only other person I can think of who got this treatment is Seanan McGuire, and she went on to become a relatively successful author.
Right. And what did she do? She stayed the fuck away from us. For the most part, we left her alone.
VASpider? Crawls back into the community. And then has the nerve to tell us to leave her alone.
Get out of my fucking bar. You're not welcome.
@Paris said in A Constructive Thread About People We Might Not Like:
I don't think anyone expects FH to change their minds, the only voice we've heard from there so far has doubled down.
Arx doubled down on Custodius, and changed course. Knowing FH's owner, I'm pretty sure she's listening. She has her reasons for doing what she's doing, but those may change. All I can hope for is that VASpider doesn't damage the game, whether she remains there or not.
@Coin said:
Well, I am bored by some porn. I also shaved my beard, so.
I don't know, something about tastes, not the same, etc.
You probably like your bourbon with water in it too.
No, that's exactly what I'd say. It's your game; it's your rules; and it's your call.
I hereby report that the Itty Bitty Kitty Council requires you to continue to care for the buggers so that we can see more pictures.
@surreality said in MU and Alternate Channels:
Women are expected to prove ten times the competence in terms of stuff like this far more often than I feel like dealing with, there is already plenty to do, and nobody's got time for that on top.
I make my partner's sandwiches daily.
That said, I concur with @Thenomain's succinct synopsis.
