Maybe we play on different places, but my experience has been the opposite.
When I ST a solo event, it goes a lot faster, and the RP decision-making is substantially deeper.
I find it easier to manipulate the action to exploit a PC’s past and weaknesses one-on-one. And I would warrant the solo PC has a better experience that way.
I also question whether coming up with a model to justify the bias is a good idea.
@autumn said in San Francisco: Paris of the West:
So, single-Order? Multi-Order?
Anything but Free Council, please. Silver Ladder might be kind of funny.
Whatever increases the humor value.
@arkandel said in San Francisco: Paris of the West:
This is my take: a bunch of hipster millenials running their own fast food joint. They serve glutten free burgers, the guys sport manbuns and fancy beards, they're all on their phones half the time gulping down craft beer the other half and have crippling student debts to worry about. Half of them might even still be at school.
This.
I like the name "Regulators."
@admiral said in RL Anger:
However, given the microscope black leaders have been under throughout the history of the US and the glee the white supremacists (alt right) show when one is caught red-handed if I was sexually harassed by Morgan Freeman I probably wouldn't report it.
That's your choice, and I understand why, but it was that same silence that covered up decades of Cosby's raping.
There are plenty of pillars of the black community. Where I live, black Americans turn to LeBron James, John Legend, and Dave Chappelle. There are many people that still prop up the community well.
Morgan Freeman is just one man.
In my opinion, the only reasonable thing to do now is turn the spotlight against white men. And, believe me, the number of white men that have been called out for sexual harassment far outweighs the number of upstanding pillars of the black community.
@autumn said in San Francisco: Paris of the West:
@Cobaltasaurus @Ganymede I will be very scarce today and early tomorrow, but Saturday evening/Sunday/Monday will be good. Or, well! Just PM me.
Everyone, I think, knows how my schedule works. But this is on my radar, despite my misgivings towards 1E. (I hate it.)
@admiral said in RL Anger:
...and now Morgan Freeman. Maybe there is a damn conspiracy to topple pillars of the black community.
Or maybe powerful men, regardless of color, have been harassing women for generations?
@kanye-qwest said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
That very much is not what I was 'wanting to know', because it is balls out insane
What did you want to know? I thought you wanted to know who Derp thought was one of the "untouchable" people that skirt the line here.
I think his response was pretty clear.
@apos said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
I think that was more because saying I mischaracterized an argument is similar to saying someone was disingenuous, so if the latter is an insult then the former would be also. I think this underscores that it is difficult to talk about this stuff in a civil way that doesn't spiral.
There is a difference between saying that someone is mischaracterizing an argument and that someone is disingenuous. In the first instance, I'd receive that comment as an invitation to re-state; in the latter, I'd receive that as a comment on my character.
But that's me. I'm the butt of many jokes and lawyers, sharks, and the bottom of the ocean. I don't expect people to be a Dreadnought of Thinly-Veiled Insults, as I've been constructed to be.
Changes are being discussed.
So, a fat black dude goes to buy some fried chicken at Popeye's when ...
I'm not even trying to be racist. Apparently, you can't even be a stereotype without the police getting in your shit. In Hollywood, the Mecca of tolerance and love and hippie bullshit.
To quote Chris Rock: "There ain't a white person in the room that'd change places with me. None of you. None of you would change places with me, and I'm rich."
@bobgoblin said in The best I've ever...:
The best policy I've ever experienced was: Requiem for Kingsmouth's policy of only allowing 1 alt.
The best game system I've ever experienced was: BSG: Unification's use of FS3; it blew my fucking mind how well-tailored it was to the game's needs and code (which is a bit of quid pro quo).
The best setting I've ever experienced was: Requiem for Kingsmouth's vampire-based setting, with elements of Lovecraftian horror lingering.
The best code I've ever experienced was: Faraday's, but I'm slowly discovering how deep the code is at Fate's Harvest, so props to their team over there (there are a number of coders who've touched that game, so I give love to all of them. Any game that has every stat described and referenced in detail and available through the game's code is a good one, and this is especially true for the WoD (props also to Ashen-Shugar's (I think?) code for Star Wars SAGA games).
@derp said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
I don't mind the Hog Pit. There are times when gloves off can be beneficial. I more mind the fact that, even with a designated gloves off area, people can't seem to keep it there and it ends up spilling everywhere because things get dragged into the mud if they get too dirty, instead of someone turning on the hose, like should happen.
If we get rid of the Hog Pit, then those lines become, well, muddier. I think that would ultimately have the opposite of the intended effect. At least with it there, there are moderate boundaries between 'pit material' and 'non pit material'. Even if some people still fail to grasp that.
Here's why I don't approve of this line of thinking.
Some people don't want to play in the mud, like Faraday. I know this, so I could hop into the Hog Pit and defecate a whole ton of false, defamatory offal there accusing her of everything from kidnapping the Lindbergh Baby to being the reason why kids are getting shot in schools. And I could attempt to do so in a witty, rhetorical fashion that both amuses and persuades people to my line of thinking. And if Faraday wanted to denounce all of that bullshit, she would have to come into the Hog Pit to do it. Otherwise, she has to sit back and take it or hope that someone steps into the ring for her.
How is that fair? This is what bullying boils down to: I take the fight to a place where my victim can't or won't go, or won't have a fair shot in.
I cannot say from personal experience that I have been the target of a whisper-campaign, but I can damn well understand it is some shady peak-at-high-school bullshit that I have neither the time nor the inclination to properly express my anger over. I have seen and heard enough in my 20+ years of lingering in virtual space to know that, at one point, the WORA community was about two steps away of heading down the road of 8-bit and 4chan. And I'm too old to think there is anything hip, edgy, or valuable of having a website that has a section that condones and even encourages people to be shitty to one another.
Maybe back in the day when some of us were neophytes still masturbating to our purple TS prose, we thought that it would be cool and cathartic to take potshots at people who had difficulty communicating over the internet. Where we could nitpick about grammar and spelling, and pass judgment on who or what was acceptable in our community of misfits. But in retrospect, I've come to the conclusion that my belief in a "free internet" where people could express what they felt in whatever way they wished is the same sort of mentality that shields hate groups as they organize, intimidate, and sometimes kill the easily-oppressed.
If we can comprehend that there is a good behavior and bad behavior, then we can recognize that bad behavior is bad. In order for a person to conclude that there is value to the Hog Pit, they must also conclude that the bad behavior is desirable, and should be considered acceptable. But if conduct were acceptable, then there is no reason why it should have been separated in the first place from the other forms of acceptable conduct -- the good conduct, if you will. And that doesn't make sense to me.
But, more fundamentally, I do not see why we have to accept bad behavior here. What value is there in giving members of the community a place to accuse one another of things in egregious ways that are sometimes lauded and praised? Why is it that we seem to be incapable of airing grievances as we'd expect our friends to do, namely civilly and without childish name-calling? (I suppose it depends on the kinds of friends you have.)
If WORA was a place where people could complain about what was happening in the hobby, then make a "Complaints" forum and attach the same rules as we have for "Mildly Constructive." Complain all you want, but stick to what happened rather just accuse someone vaguely as a psycho hosebeast.
I don't think it's difficult, but I file complaints for a living.
@packrat said in General Video Game Thread:
Sadly in the new Battletech game pulse lasers are awful. 20% more damage on a medium laser for double the weight and much more heat? No thank you.
@lithium said in General Video Game Thread:
Pulse Lasers have an increased chance to hit as well. They are worth it if you are needing to take lesser skilled pilots into the fight.
And this is how the game relates back to the old board game. That is exactly why pulse lasers were chosen.
@krmbm said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
Why is this so hard?
Because shit in the Hog Pit overflows into the rest of the board.
@sunny said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
Different rules? IDK how to say what I'm trying to get at. I don't disagree with you. I just think that it should be allowed to warn people about folks like Sovereign.
I get what you're getting at.
I think that you can very easily warn people about folks like Sovereign without wandering into Hog Pit territory. In fact, I've read very descriptive accounts of him that, although stating vile and despicable things, very accurately recounts the vile and despicable things that Sovereign said and did.
It's not slanderous or defamatory if it's true.
@faraday said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
OK but the way it came across was Ark saying basically "This is what we are considering doing..." which has a very strong implication that you moderators had already discussed this amongst yourselves and come up with a joint solution. So to hear you and Auspice then saying completely different things is honestly a bit baffling.
I understand.
So, I'll say it for myself: I'm speaking from my mind right now. If I'm speaking as part of the group, I'll make that clearer.
Lots of thoughts here. I think we're going to meet and confer soon enough.
@faraday said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
I keep hearing different messages from @Arkandel , @Auspice and @Ganymede about how this will be handled and I think I (and others) are understandably confused. If you want to say "hey it's gonna vary by mod - deal with it" then fine. But otherwise it sounds like y'all are contradicting each other and it's confusing.
This is because we are not speaking with a unified voice here. We, like you, are tossing out opinions and ideas. And, as you can tell, our approaches to matters are different by design, but the goal is to explore every facet so that, at the end of the day, a better decision is arrived at by virtue of dissonance.
@sunny said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
@faraday said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
Faraday calls Bob all kinds of names, against forum policy.
Mod says "Be nice"
Bob still has to look at the post sitting there calling him all kinds of names but isn't supposed to respond.This (and the rest of the post surrounding it) is my problem/concern. It is currently happening this way, and it is my opinion that the deletion of posts will make it worse, not better.
When this has happened, my response in chat with Auspice and Arkandel has been invariably between "nuke it from space" and "burn the heretic."
Supposing that an offending post can be identified, I would simply step in and delete that message and every obliquely-referencing message that follows. That seems to be the most neutral thing to do: acting without regard for right or wrong, and simply adhering to the rules as directly as possible. This is especially so on advertisement threads, where it is very easy to pick out where a conversation veers into offensive territory.
I think there are plenty of dissenters to that position, however.
@faraday said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:
But let's not fool ourselves either. If the only "consequence" to being a jerk is a slap on the wrist like: "Hey don't be a jerk" -- then that's effectively no consequence either.
Of course not, but what I believe to be a reasonable consequence isn't the same as what Arkandel or Auspice believes. So, if I'm the first to respond, then the consequence may not be in line with what other consequences have been, which raises the problem of consistency.
