@saosmash said in Regarding administration on MSB:
Right, but if you're GOING to use it in an obviously sarcastic way in one thread, it poisons future uses of it and makes them less clear by its very nature.
Counselor, would you agree with me if I were to say that, if past messages have been unclear, it would behoove the communicator to make it clearer?
And, if this is the case, would you agree with me that sticking up "MOD VOICE" at the beginning of a message would make its intent clearer?
@thatguythere said in Regarding administration on MSB:
Ok I have not read the stranger than fiction thread yet, though I will soon but how is a Mod tell people not to plot against a game even a debatable thing?
It's not, but, as I've been told by many, it's often not what is said but how it is said.
@caryatid said in Characters You Enjoyed Playing:
I like to picture her and Cai in some sleepy, idyllic backwater leading their own happy little blood cult and being horrible to everyone but each other.
I liked playing a lot of characters, but Cai is near the top of the list.
He was Embraced late, after spending 20+ years fighting in various wars for the British Empire and being responsible for the death of his daughter. His Sire was a Bron, and he passed on all of the attendant problems, which sabotaged each and every attempt Cai made to start a family again. And he did try, over and over, resulting in the unfortunate deaths of more than a few women and children.
He entered RfK in media res, having "adopted" a daughter of his own. He was made to help bolster the Circle (under David), but, to keep his mask up, he tried to play the role of the blue-collar worker. He bowled; he went to bars; and he tried to take care of this mortal teen. There was much fun to be had, and it happened for many months.
And then, there was him meeting Nora. That's when he became a real vampire. He forgot about wanting a family; he wanted power. Sweet, sweet power. His "daughter," Sarah, fell by the wayside.
She ran away. Wandered to New York. Awakened during the tumultuous period that began Fallen World.
And she was the Shrike.
You haven't really lived until you've tried to inject British slang into everything your PC says, to the point that she becomes vaguely incomprehensible.
Good times.
Someone tells me that I am RPing exactly how they pictured my PC to be.
I know I'm doing something right, and that makes me happy.
Staaawwwp... I feel old enough already. BTW you gotten Victor approved yet?
Who's old? I use Aleve all the time. It helps for minor nerve aches, for me, and I work out fairly regularly.
And, yes. Victor's up and running. Hit me up some time, and let's RP in Gotham. ^.^
There's only one standard that matters between the relevant parties.
@thenomain said in Looking for an Artist, actually willing to pay...:
The real point is, "how do we know what's a reasonable price"?
There's lots of ways to determine this. That's why I'm an economist, not a business major.
(That's right, motherfuckers, I'm more than just a lawyer.)
You can take this to the bank, but how one determines the reasonable fee of a lawyer is far more of a calculable figure than what happens in the medical field.
@thenomain said in Looking for an Artist, actually willing to pay...:
The point to Ganymede was that doctors are not exempt from their customers or ignorant business-major overlords pushing them around.
Maybe we're talking about different patients too, but my experience is that patients don't question their doctors at all as to whether or not they will be paying a reasonable price for services.
This is probably because many patients are in no condition or position to bargain with doctors.
My point was that patients hardly ever question their doctors when it comes to the reasonableness of price, whereas they are more than happy to give their lawyers and artisans the nth degree about it, as if they have a greater understanding as to how the costs of legal or artistic work are calculated.
@lithium said in Cheap or Free Games!:
I have not played it. I have heard good things but, money is what money is.
I will send a copy to you, if you'd like.
It's really that good. So good that I feel I have to spread the gospel.
And yet people aren't shy at all about heading to their doctors.
The Last of Us. At least, it should be one of your games.
We are so needing a street fighter tournament on the game.
@surreality said in Looking for an Artist, actually willing to pay...:
So it isn't just customer ignorance that can screw someone over, no matter how good everyone's intentions are. It is very upsetting to see this happen, particularly to someone who is endeavoring to be kind, when that kindness puts someone notably into the red.
I understand why it is upsetting or frustrating. I had to watch my partner sell herself short too often, and then watch her burn out, and then hold her as she cried and mumbled about how she was very close to offing herself.
But you said your piece, and hopefully your crafter friend will take it to heart.
@sockmonkey said in RL Anger:
I'm not sure if it will amount to anything (California laws favor the renter over the landlord and they strike me as the sort of people who wouldn't go down without a fight, kicking and screaming all the way) but it felt so nice to bond with my neighbor today about them; I can only imagine how much better it will feel to share their shenanigans with my landlord as well (who I suspect already views them as PITAs for other community related requests they have made).
Nothing lasts forever, even cold November Rain shitty ass leases.
@surreality said in Looking for an Artist, actually willing to pay...:
Again... this has been said. I know I'm wordy, but come on, this is two in a damn row, y'all, and that isn't cool.
Succinctly, if you want to make a concise point then you could try to employ verbal parsimony.
That said, I didn't read anything in what you wrote that contradicted what I wrote, which is that any negative impact underselling may have to professionals is due to customer inexperience/idiocy/greed.
It happens in what I do all the damned time, and there's a part of me that wants to shake the potential clients and tell them that you always get what you pay for. And then I'm getting yelled at by opposing counsel because I take over a case that's been fucked since its inception because the previous lawyer had no clue what he was doing.
Customers are generally ignorant and stupid. I wish I had better things to say about them.
@surreality said in Looking for an Artist, actually willing to pay...:
Partly this is the whole 'customer inexperience' problem. "I paid $100 for this the last time when I got a similar thing from someone else, WTF you want $600?" If I heard one more time about how somebody's cousin would make it for less as an attempt to get me to drop a price -- and let's be real, they would never actually be asking the cousin to do it, it's almost always a request for the thing in hand right now at less than cost... it's one of those 'if I had a nickel every time' issues, I could retire now.
The entirety of what you're getting at seems to be "customer inexperience," which is a nice way of saying "customer idiocy" and/or "the usual American attitude of trying to get something for less than its value through force or fraud."
(By the way, I didn't make that up; an American economist pointed this out over 100 years ago, and it was as apt then as it is today.)
There is, or was, literally nothing wrong with looking to see if anyone would do work for less than time value, as far as I'm concerned. If I charged value for every niggling thing people asked me about the law, I'd be a lot richer and happier. As far as I'm concerned, if someone's willing to give up their skill and intellect for less than value, that's their choice.
And, in my opinion, artists, like lawyers, have the right to turn down business without being bullied or intimidated or shamed for sticking up for themselves, but choosing to do so doesn't give license to launching yourself at those who are willing to do things au gratis or for less than value. This is how business has worked since time in memoriam.
But if you're going to do something, do it right, do it well, and do it professionally, regardless of compensation. You choose fruit; you live with fruit.
But customers are fucking morons. I know this; you know this; we all know this.
Hair up? Yes. Bullet bra? I couldn't find Dianna Agron in one.
@tinuviel said in Questionably viable character types and tropes (tangent from staff ethics convo):
You could do it. Doubt you'd manage to keep a straight face though.
Thanks. I am doing it, though. I'm playing a Stepford Wife Sanctified in Fallcoast.
