Posts made by Ghost

@RDC Look at it this way.

What I'm saying is that there are people out there that consider what goes on on these games as personal or related to their OOC personas, up to the point of being unable to tell the difference between an IC relationship and an OOC one. Meanwhile there are others that view this entirely as roleplaying characters and wanting to keep their OOC selves separate from it.

"People roleplay things they like" is a very general statement. Yes. People wouldn't do it if they didn't enjoy it, but that statement dodges the greater question of "Is TS between the players, or is it between the characters?" which, as you've shown, not everyone is on the same page.

The gotcha here (or the tongue in cheek danger zone of this thread) is that for all of the big talk about "it being about the characters" there's a lot of hiding the evidence, covering it with litter, fear of witnessing, and aversion to other players seeing it, which if it is all IC there would be no shame of.

There are players that dont police the OOC bleed, or worse, are so comfortable with the concept that their characters are essentially THEMSELVES that one should question:

Is it an IC romance scene, or two human beings on opposite sides of an internet connection getting each other horny?

@Arkandel said in TS - Danger zone:

@RDC said in TS - Danger zone:

Characters are ENTIRELY extensions of the players, whether it's sex or not.

Okay, let's test the hypothesis.

Folks, please be honest (if you want to be). When it comes to TS how much are your characters' preferences typically an extension of your own OOC ones?

I don't mean that just in the vanilla way - i.e. that they have the same sexual orientation as you do - although that can apply as well. More specifically, whatever your kinks might be, do your PCs tend to have the same ones or not?

My answer.

1. My characters had the orientations and tastes that I felt matched the characters themselves. I did not write about myself in a shell, but focused on the character's perspectives.
2. I tended to avoid "kinks" as content material and kept things as HBO-to-Skinemax as possible in terms of content and less "fetlife" due to the constant, uncomfortable feeling that I was not writing a story about characters (with another writer) but instead fantasy fulfillment of another player.
3. Most everyone likes steamy romance scenes, so it's potentially impossible to not cross things that I personally enjoy in real life, but MU was never (for me) an engine to quasi-experience those things.

Edit: Basically what Sao said.

@Jeshin said in TS - Danger zone:

@Ghost

No I get that I'm asking if the rhetorical answer is logging is bad or posting logs is bad.

If you're asking me specifically?

I don't think anything that happens IC should be something that you're ashamed of other people reading. If you're nervous about being logged without consent, it's worth meditating on. On the other side of the coin if you default log everything it comes down to the reasons why.

So that you can go back and remember stuff or have a rolling log for reference material I think is fairly reasonable. If it's not for that reason it may be worth meditating on.

@Jeshin said in TS - Danger zone:

Question

I log everything into a master log automatically once I start playing a game. Is people being uncomfortable with TS being logged because it might be posted or is it the actual thought of it being saved somewhere?

Its more a rhetorical question that delves into Danger Zone

@Ganymede said in Good Music:

@Wretched

I’m sorry, since when does anyone consider Minaj to be the Queen of Rap?

Right.

Im sure her majesty Latifah, who was crowned in 1989 and actually carries the Lady title of Queen would have something to say about that.

@RDC So if you and I were to (have characters who) TS'ed it would be, in part, you and I having a sexual experience between each other as OOC entities?

@RDC said in TS - Danger zone:

Hard disagree, if only because you shouldn't expect staff to be willing to read everything people the characters who are totally not extensions of the players find enjoyable

^

If TS is in-character and has no OOC bleed, the tastes of the characters are in play, and are not in any way personally revealing of the players' own private desires

I think it's simple.

1. People get characters approved on a specific game
2. The IC actions and stories of those characters on that game are considered game content
3. Secret game content that isn't sharable (with staff at the minimum due to metagaming evidence) due to it being considered personal isn't game content

Every scene on a game should be readable, or at least okay for staff to read.

@Derp You.

@Aria Why would he go to Philly when he can get a good cheesesteak anywhere?

@magee101 said in TS - Danger zone:

@Ghost said in TS - Danger zone:

@Ganymede "Is it sex, or is it creative writing?"

I mean, in theory, if I were writing a steamy romance novel I'd probably hand sample chapters to people including my own parents, but I wouldn't fuck my SO in front of them soooooooooooo...

I'm one of those people that I'm not gonna like, try and do it in front of you, but if you walk in I'm not going to stop or give a fuck you're there.

I feel like there's a 1-10 rating system of who you'd (generic) stop for. 10 being OMGOOPSSTOP and 1 being "fuck it" lol. Because the only thing worse than not stopping when your mom or dad walk in the room would be your mom and dad stopping to watch.

Aint no coming back from that.

Uno Mas

"If it's all in character and "about the characters", why is the concept of "safe" TS partners a constant topic, but not so much "safe coffee house RP" partners?"

@Ganymede "Is it sex, or is it creative writing?"

I mean, in theory, if I were writing a steamy romance novel I'd probably hand sample chapters to people including my own parents, but I wouldn't fuck my SO in front of them soooooooooooo...

"If TS is in character and it's all about the story, then why is there so much aversion to posting logs containing TS or staff snooping in on scenes involving it (but most every other scene is okay to post?)"

@Arkandel said in TS - Danger zone:

To add to @Ghost's question - do you let your partner(s) know you're logging and do they need to grant permission before you share those logs with third parties?

Oooooh good dangerzone question there

Can't remember anyone asking me if I agreed to logs containing adult material was logged.

"Do you log your TS? If so, is your spouse aware of it and welcome to read the logs?"

@Auspice Hahahahahaoh man

PJ Harvey covering Nick Cave? Yes please.

Red Right Hand

@magee101 said in Firan Secrets:

@Arkandel said in Firan Secrets:

@surreality said in Firan Secrets:

@magee101 You... do understand that not everyone engages in RP of sexual subject matter to fill their RL need for sexual stimulation/inspiration/contact/release, right?

I considered making a thread with questions like this, stuff we don't usually... ask. "What do you TS for?" would be high on the list.

But I'd be tempting fate there.

I thought you did make a thread with this question, or something similar.

I've been involved in some side chatter lately about the DANGER ZONE questions that MUers don't want to be asked. Oh man, there are a few of those.

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