Posts made by Gingerlily

@sunnyj said in Make MSB great again!:

Have some easy-to-find, constantly-updated list of games.

Keep the Hogpit in the Hogpit

Keep the Advertisement Threads free of nasty bashing (although I do feel like players should be free to post in them things like "Had bad experiences with this game. Will explain in the Hogpit").

I don't think that there is any need for posting "I had a bad experience, will explain in Hog Pit" on an advertisement thread. People know how MSB works. They know that there will be a 99% chance that any game that exists will have a thread of people bitching and moaning about it. Having that shiz in advertisement threads is just demoralizing for the people working their asses off to make a game and/or play on one and love it.

The advertisement threads turning mean and nasty is one of the reasons I stopped using MSB much other than the chat aspect which is handy dandy. Not only because at one point a game I staffed had the advertisement thread turn nasty, because that was years ago and I'm over it. But seeing it happen again and again and again to other people was extremely frustrating and disheartening. It's unnecessary. People know where to go if they want to bitch. That seems abundantly clear.

@arkandel said in Make MSB great again!:

@misadventure said in Make MSB great again!:

A wiki to store the same old fight summaries, played by lists, MU* lists.

Who would write the summaries? Would it be objective? Does it work for late comers who might want to debate things others happen to have seen before?

A link off any advertisement to a thread where people can go wild. I'd like to be able to find both the ad content and updates with ease, and make it easy to find the discussion about the given ad poster or place.

Alright, how about this then: Please feel free to create offshoots of advertisement threads in the Constrictive and/or Hogpit sections, and I'll edit the original posts as needed to include those links so it's easy to jump back and forth. That way you can choose the level of content you want:

• The advertisement thread is just 101 'what is this game about' with rather basic information primarily aimed to hype a MU* up, which I'll frown at anyone being more than slightly critical of,
• The Constructive thread where suggestions are meant to be made, and where you can be as critical as you want as long as you attack ideas and not people,
• The Hogpit thread where the gloves can come off.

Does that work?

A reminder that phrasing things in the form of accusations, and not questions pretty much guarantees that your discussion is going no where.

Although that's possible, at some point it'll become condescending as fuck.

This is definitely a start. The advertisement threads turning into pile ons is not appealing, not for the people running the games that were advertised, and not for players looking for a game to play that want to hear from people who enjoy the game and have questions about the game answered.

MSB clearly loves the fun chemical rush of being nasty to other people, lobbing insults and comparisons and creating entire threads about individual people that they don't like. So I guess to keep some of the regulars happy you're gonna have to provide an outlet for this to happen. Something people who are completely uninterested in that can avoid as much as possible, like Hog Pit as it is structured now, would probably serve.

How to make MSB something that is actually cool and useful for large groups of people interested in MU* games, that might require a bigger shift in culture. What the 'community' (I kind of hate that word in reference to fellow MU* players because it is really not one community the way some on MSB refer to it) needs is not really more critiques of games, but more games. So discussions about how to make good games that last would be useful. Discussions about how to keep staffers engaged and supported would be useful. Anything that would help as many people as possible get a game going would be useful.

The critiques of games are not nearly as helpful as I think people want to believe. They are cathartic maybe, but not really providing a service.

@Thenomain said in What even is 'Metaplot'?:

@Gingerlily said in What even is 'Metaplot'?:

3. Examples of other types of plots that are appropriate for a game with metaplot

Any plot is appropriate for a game with metaplot. No plot should live in a vacuum so if a game has a metaplot of the "state-of-the-world" variety then the plot should be influenced by this, but the plot can also be what happened when we went out on Thursday Night that I can't remember because magic was involved.

Take a TV show with a plot arc, and there's an episode or a situation that barely touched on that plot arc if at all. That's always okay.

Or there's tons of them because show writers can't keep focus after a few seasons but I follow you!

I felt like I'd seen it before but was not sure. I'll give that thread a look too.

In the meantime, I'd be super happy if anyone wanted to toss in some examples:

1. Examples of metaplots
   2)Examples of plots that are associated with metaplots but not metaplots themselves.
2. Examples of other types of plots that are appropriate for a game with metaplot

Ty ty

This question is not asked out of pure ditziness, but because I've started wondering if there are dozens of definitions and applications instead of the word 'metaplot' referring to a common experience or understanding we internet text game geeks share.

So what is 'metaplot' and is it the same or different or sometimes each as 'staff run plot' or 'PvE plot'?

Definitions are always exciting but specific examples are too. Tell me the metaplot of any game that you all remember from the golden age or a recent one or whichever.

@Misadventure said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

Try eating cheese before you go to sleep.

Then try ciprofoxacin before you sleep.

Science is so weird

@WTFE said in The Board Game Thread:

@Gingerlily said in The Board Game Thread:

I LOVE Dixit. The first time I played it was on New Years Eve at a friend's party and I was too champagne addled to understand the rules. The second time I learned it doesn't matter if you understand the rules!

Jesus! I'm supposed to hate you, but you're making it really fucking difficult.

You are? Don't let people boss you around. Also yay for Dixit. Another thing that is fun about it is you can play it with whoever. My 8 year old plays with us. She's no more or less likely to win than anyone else so she digs it.

@Arkandel said in The Baking Thread:

@Gingerlily I'd rather make them feel BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES. It's more rewarding in the end.

You've upset me and now I need ice cream

@Auspice said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

@Gingerlily said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

@Auspice said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

@Gingerlily said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

@Auspice said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

@Paris said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

This is me with Oxy.

Same. Rarely, rarely, percocet will get me into 'sit and stare at the wall in a daze' but not generally.

Ambien used to work, doesn't anymore. Trazodone doesn't work night-of, but leaves me feeling drugged the next day.

I hate my body's resistance.

Ambien is such a tease, it is amazing when you first start but tolerance builds sooo fast and then your body refuses to sleep with or without it. Ugh.

The way trazodone is now is worse tho. That feeling drugged the whole next day... The time I tried taking it, I spend a good hour or so just crying because of how bad it was. Like, couldn't see straight, walking into walls, every little thing took such immense concentration.... and that was after not being able to sleep the entire night.

Trazadone gave me horrible nightmares, the kind where you know you are dreaming but can't wake yourself up enough to stop. No ty.

I was originally put on it (as a teenager) to stop a bad cycle of hypnagogic hallucinations. It works great for some people! When I was on it then, it was amazing, which is why I was totally willing to give it another go when the ambien quit working.

I don't understand how medications can give people nightmares in the first place, it's so weird. They totally can though.

@Cupcake said in The Board Game Thread:

It's really hard to narrow down a singular favorite. Generally I prefer co-op games (love love love Pandemic) and I used to just utterly hate screw-your-buddy games, but in more recent years I've realized it's not the games, it's the people. The people I learned to play Munchkin with were dicks. My boardgame group in more recent years is a much more fun, mature bunch.

I have a certain fondness for Dixit because I love games that require "thinking outside the box". I mentioned co-ops and Pandemic is my go-to for that. Takaido has some of the most beautiful art.

Having recently played Bears vs. Babies, I can attest to it being hella fun.

The fact that I am undefeated in my group at Cards Against Humanity has nothing to do with anything, as I have since retired. Too much of a good/awful thing.

I LOVE Dixit. The first time I played it was on New Years Eve at a friend's party and I was too champagne addled to understand the rules. The second time I learned it doesn't matter if you understand the rules!

@Arkandel said in The Baking Thread:

Screw you people, now I'm hungry at 8:30 am.

A thread about carbs is cruel, make them delete it

@Auspice said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

@Gingerlily said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

@Auspice said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

@Paris said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

This is me with Oxy.

Same. Rarely, rarely, percocet will get me into 'sit and stare at the wall in a daze' but not generally.

Ambien used to work, doesn't anymore. Trazodone doesn't work night-of, but leaves me feeling drugged the next day.

I hate my body's resistance.

Ambien is such a tease, it is amazing when you first start but tolerance builds sooo fast and then your body refuses to sleep with or without it. Ugh.

The way trazodone is now is worse tho. That feeling drugged the whole next day... The time I tried taking it, I spend a good hour or so just crying because of how bad it was. Like, couldn't see straight, walking into walls, every little thing took such immense concentration.... and that was after not being able to sleep the entire night.

Trazadone gave me horrible nightmares, the kind where you know you are dreaming but can't wake yourself up enough to stop. No ty.

@Auspice said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

@Paris said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

This is me with Oxy.

Same. Rarely, rarely, percocet will get me into 'sit and stare at the wall in a daze' but not generally.

Ambien used to work, doesn't anymore. Trazodone doesn't work night-of, but leaves me feeling drugged the next day.

I hate my body's resistance.

Ambien is such a tease, it is amazing when you first start but tolerance builds sooo fast and then your body refuses to sleep with or without it. Ugh.

@Cupcake said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

@Gingerlily I'm actually on Zoloft, but I'm wondering if I either need to consider a dosage increase, or ask for a medication specifically for when I get an anxiety spike.

Xanax works wonders for me, I get horrible jitters about public speaking and have to sometimes with work and it just lets me coast.

I've recently tried Kava Kava too, and its incredibly effective, way more than I'd expect an herbal supplement to be.

@ThatGuyThere said in Eliminating social stats:

@Gingerlily
I love rolling composure to see how my character handles (ICly) unexpected situations, though I have noticed the people I RP being fairly split n the issue, some love it because it takes the scene to unpredictable places (which is my main motivation for doing it as well) some are take it or leave it, some complain the ooc message ruins their immersion, and than one who I rarely play these days, would get actively upset and that is one of the reason I think we play less is that our styles in regard to that did not mesh at all.

I can see that. It does break into immersion, it gives you sudden OOC knowledge of a thing your character does not know if a roll happens and works and thus no composure is broken. It's enticing to know someone was rping feeling or thinking a thing and sometimes not knowing the thing can be kind of torturous with it's curiosity creation. I get super curious too, but excited because 'there is some kind of a FEELING about a THING' going on that neither my character nor I know, and I just stay excited and keep wanting to know what it is which can motivate more play.

I get that it can also be frustrating because of those exact same reasons, I get frustrated sometimes too if I feel like I am so close to something tantalizing but do not get to play about it. Usually though the prospect of eventually getting to play about it makes it more enticing than frustrating for me.

@Sunny said in Eliminating social stats:

@Gingerlily

Best moments so far have all been failed rolls. Having my character snort in p public was pretty much hilarious.

Right? But its more fun when the element of chance is what made it happen. That keeps things interesting and potentially novel. If you chose to fail that could be awesome rp for you and whoever too...but I think that not having complete control over it and letting a potential surprise happen is very engaging. This is why I enjoy playing with you, and other likeminded people, because we're all looking to have fun without needing complete control.

@Tinuviel

Who has a new T-shirt arriving on Monday? ME

@Tempest said in Eliminating social stats:

@Gingerlily said in Eliminating social stats:

I feel like even if Bob is a shitty writer, its cool to let your character be convinced by his shitty writing to buy the Avon he's selling at double the price you should, because it does not hurt you and it is fun for Bob.

The problem is, social dice and stats never come up for this level of stuff.

If it did, sure, that's harmless and not painful to let happen.

People only start wanting to flex their social dice for stuff like "i convince you to support me to be King of the World!" or "I persuade you to betray the Emperor with me!" or "I convince you to tell me all the horrible life-threatening secrets you know about Jane!" and of course the standard "I seduce you!"

I feel like it is possible that what people usually use these types of rolls for is neither as major as your examples or as minor as mine. I'm still for stepping back and allowing for your character to face a setback or loss of some type that another player's character might have a moment, and still think that the element of 'game' part of roleplaying game enhances that. I fully understand that many players feel differently, but appreciate opportunities to engage with those who do not.

I think I mentioned somewhere pages ago that my 'social stats are fun use them as much as possible' does not apply to sex related rp. That is a whole other bag of worms and I am fully and vocally in favor of never ever having to rp anything sexual at all, or even the aftermath of a fade to black, that I have not 100% determined I wish to and all other players having that same right.

@Thenomain said in RL Anger:

@Aria

I need a link to where this shirt can be purchased and I'm not kidding. I'm buying it.

@Arkandel said in RL Anger:

@Aria I've a friend who refers to vampires as "Draculas".

I can't tell if he's just trying to piss me off or what.

OMG I know -so- many goths, totally stealing this.