Posts made by Hella

Impatiently waiting the Canadian release. Anyone know when that's going to be?

@Haven said in Fallen World MUX!:

@SunnyJ I love that you only allow one alt. Never change this. Ever. EVER. Thank you.

That's pretty much the best thing I've ever heard.

The players who are a-okay with FTB requests. Seriously. You rock. Thank you for being a bright spot.

@HorrorHound said in RL things I love:

@VulgarKitten

https://youtu.be/Y9B9pvdtuns

what the fuck is this even what is WRONG with you people???????

No.

But that doesn't mean the thought of creepy paranormal things doesn't give me the willies at night, alone, in the dark. So on some level, I guess my brain must be open to the possibility, however remote.

Maybe?

@Bobotron said in RL Anger:

@VulgarKitten

... this may sound bad, but can I get some suggestions? I feel like I need a good cry.

It was called The Longest Ride

People who 5 star really fucking sad movies on Netflix just because they're really fucking sad. Thanks, assholes. I just cried my damn afternoon away.

This is shitty all around. I'm sorry for you both. May the care and love of those around you give you comfort and peace to get you through the rough days.

I don't get it myself but I have friends who do (they're major Whovians) and I see the pictures posts every month. They seem to love it. I've seen very little complaints about content thus far. Maybe once or twice in a year or so, that they haven't been completely pleased.

Option #4; no horse in this race.

@WTFE I used to care so much, too. I blame MUSoapbox for helping me become this callous!

In all seriousness, I actually thought about this, this morning when I logged in. When I first joined here, and people would go on the attack/argue/be all name-calley it used to really bother me. Stomach in knots, couldn't sleep, would stress about it in RL time. This morning I realized I hadn't given a thought to it at all until I logged on again. And now I'm wondering, have I become so desensitized? Anyone else experience this?

@Shlappy I'll try not to lose any sleep over it.

@Shlappy said in Kushiel's Debut:

@VulgarKitten That would be an entirely fair statement had I picked on you at all, so far. Which I have not! I just wanted to bring the conversation back to the game that this thread is about.

While I wasn't around back then, I will say that @sunny put a LOT of work into getting people involved on KD. This is an irrefutable fact. What did or did not happen on another game doesn't have any bearing here. Your lack of perspicacity does not equal hypocrisy.

So by drudging up an event from 2 years ago from a game that is no longer around in its previous incarnation without having actually been involved or informed of the current situation, you're doing a lot more assuming than you are forming educated opinions on what actually took place on this particular game during a time period you are not familiar with.

Have you read any of the thread? Or did you just tune in in the last page? Let me point you back to the video just above your post for my response to your lack of sagacity.

I feel like this is apt. And hilarious. Start at about the 3:20 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs

@Shlappy said in Kushiel's Debut:

@VulgarKitten Well, the perception on my part is that you saw an opportunity to pick on someone you clearly don't like for reasons you've clearly been holding onto for a while. I could absolutely be wrong, but those airs are fairly palpable.

If I was looking for an opportunity to do that, it could have been done many times over before now. I saw something hypocritical (to me) and I called bullshit. I would do that to people I like, too. And again, I'll point out the fact that I didn't bring up the reasons I dislike her until she herself went on the attack over that stuff.
Your assumption is like me saying, gee Shlappy, you clearly do like her and you saw an opportunity to pick on someone who clearly doesn't out of loyalty to your friend. I could absolutely be wrong, but those airs are fairly palpable.

@Shlappy She brought up the interpersonal problems in response to my critique of the KD situation. Then called my recollection of the events false. Hence the log.
@Sunny Yeah, it was unpleasant to have someone draw you into their OOC relationship drama the second scene on a new MU. I'm glad you noticed that. And you did apologize for it later on. So had you not brought it up, I wouldn't have, either.

Returning to your regularly scheduled program of how I started this in response to the KD issue. Anyone else? Thoughts? I've rage-quit a MU or two in my time so I get it. But that's what this seems like to me. A kind of hypocritical rage-quit.

@Sunny

Three Oaks is quite literally right next door to the Dunlin House, on the opposite side of Cati's place. In the last six months or so, it's gone from a wreck to a rather beautiful manor house; the stated intention was to renovate and repair, and it looks like they've really achieved it. It's reasonably well known throughout the family that Lili manages a rather ginormous household of people, some of whom are family but most of them are not. Catching her at home, not a for sure thing, but tonight she is here, lounging around in front of the television watching some mindless home improvement show.

There is a knock of the door, the sound hopefully loud enough to carry to the lady of the manor. Lara waits on the other side of the door, bundled up like a goth in winter. In one black-gloved hand is a bottle of bourbon, dangling absently as the eyeliner-loving Lara waits to be admitted.

Rolling her eyes, Lili lifts her head and looks, like she expects whoever it is to just open the door and walk in. When that doesn't happen she -- completely without an audience, mind -- exhales an over the top melodramatic sigh, dragging herself over to tug it open. She's wearing black fleece pants and a pale yellow t-shirt, her hair a little bit ruffled. Still, she pulls it off well. There's a moment of staring when she sees Lara on the other side of the open door, and then she's stepping back and waving a hand in invitation. "Hey," she greets. "Come on in, it's cold. What's up?" Weary, those words.

"Peace offering," Lara says without any pre-amble, extending the bottle of bourbon out as she steps forward and into the beautiful manorhouse, a sheepish look gracing the delicate slant of her rosy cheekbones. "For Thanksgiving. I didn't mean to ruin it." She gives a shiver, acclimatizing in the warmth of the house, her green-eyed gaze sweeping first Soleil, and then the foyer. "This place is beautiful. So much better than it was."

"Oh," Lili answers, taking the bottle and glancing at it, then back up. The door is closed, and she's turning to pad over in the direction of the bar. "Thank you. You didn't ruin it, though. Not by yourself, at least. Did Catriona get a bottle of bourbon, as well?" She slips behind the bar, finding an appropriate spot for the bottle on the shelves there. "At least it was just arguing, rather than -- other insanity. There were no zombies, nobody tried to burn the house down, nobody got shot or even shot at. Pretty mild family holiday, all told."

Lara's very pale brows shoot up high on her forehead, both soaring there like wings for a long moment. "Zombies are fairly common around these parts?" she queries, watching the woman as she moves away, eyes tracking, possibly faint with approval. "As for Catriona getting a bottle... not sure I'm sorry to her, yet. That's why I'm here, aside from apologizing to you, since you were hostess. I'd like to try and understand why she went off the handle. I heard she's had a rough time lately?" Her fingers toy with the zipper of the puffy black coat idly, eyes staying on Soleil.

"Yes," Lili replies mildly, glancing back at Laura for a moment before she gestures the woman further in. "You can hang your coat up in the closet there, mind the shotgun. Would you like a drink?" She turns back to the bar, setting about getting herself some juice and vodka poured. "Her fiance cheated on her, they broke it off at the altar. Amongst other things. And she went off like she did because people were ganging up on her."

'Mind the shotgun' Lara mouths with a wry, friendly smile as she finally unzips and slips out of the puffy coat. Underneath, there is just a lot of black leather and red satin. It's a dress, of sorts. The top is crimson satin corset, studded of course, the bottom is black leather, full length, covering the winter boots she slips out of. "She didn't know he was cheating on her till they got to the altar?" Lara queries in surprise. "That's in bad taste. Some men."

"No, I think she knew before, but it all came out at the altar," Lili answers, picking her drink up and heading back for the couch. Holmes on Homes is turned off, the remote set aside before she settles down to sit. "I don't really know what happened, but I do know it's been rough, and I do know I'm the last person you want to criticize her to if you're actually here to make peace. Cati isn't just my cousin, she's one of my best friends."

Lara holds up both hands like she's being robbed as she follows Soleil, foregoing the drink and settling down on the couch not far from the other Dunlin. "I was criticizing him, not her." She cocks her multi-coloured head, staring at Soleil with those cut-glass perceptive eyes. "I feel like you're determined not to like me. I promise, I'm not so bad. I was just defending my brother. I respect that you were defending Catriona." There's a smile that follows that, as Lara plaits her fingers together on the leather skirt covering her lap.

"And if I wasn't determined to not like you, accusing me of it is helpful how?" Lili asks, lifting her eyebrows lightly, her own expression one of simple calm. She shakes her head, takes another drink from her glass. "My objecting to your behavior at dinner the other night does not mean that I am determined to not like you. The issue I took with your actions towards Catriona would probably have not put me off of you as much as they did had you not spent the first half of dinner discussing Barnabas's penis after others had dropped the subject, which made me incredibly uncomfortable, and frankly made me want to claw your eyes out." It's all said entirely conversationally, like she's talking about snow in the Winter in Maine. What? Yes, of course there's snow.

Lara has that same look of calm-it must run in the family. "I spoke about my newest book, with a nympho vampire as the title character. Belle mentioned that Baranabas played one on television, though he stated he didn't. Catriona brought up Barnabas's penis to begin with, mentioning that he flashed it on an episode. I said nothing. Maddox brought it up again. I said 'Oh, well if you're offering'. And then I said nothing more on the subject." She stares at Soleil. "I have an eidetic memory. But, clearly it's got you upset, then, even if that's not what happened. I'm sorry."

<OOC> Lara says, "Sorry, took me a minute to review the log :)"

Which is when I reviewed the log to make sure I hadn't actually done what Soleil seemed to think Lara had IC at the aforementioned scene (I hadn't), was told by someone OOC what was happening (because apparently she had already started bad mouthing me to them), and then asked to peace out. It was a great second scene on a game I had just joined.

@Shlappy said in Kushiel's Debut:

@VulgarKitten Yet important enough to you still to bring up almost 2 years later...

To illustrate the hypocrisy here. For that, yep, it was important enough to bring up. I could have just said it was hypocrisy without providing an example but that seems kind of silly.

@ixokai said in Kushiel's Debut:

@VulgarKitten said in Kushiel's Debut:

@Sunny said in Kushiel's Debut:

As for getting people involved on TR, there were plenty of people bitching because you (and the others) were doing the exact opposite.

That's great. I didn't make everybody happy, the way I did things didn't. The fact of the matter is that I put a great deal of effort into trying to include people. Seriously. Open-to-everyone scenes every other weekend covering Metaplot 101, then sharing any new information people had. Me plot-hoarding and being exclusive is literally the furthest thing from the truth. You can bitch all day about how it was a bad effort or that I should have done something else instead, but you seriously cannot truthfully say I excluded people. There was a total of one person that was, due to their IC behavior, ICly not allowed to come to the meetings. One.

Not the way it appeared to a group of us Dunlins who were excluded, despite asking to be included.

Sorry, got to say: everyone was invited to those metaplot spreading scenes. Everyone. I was there for at least half of them. (And my character was the one had to be reined in to keep them open)

Not the game-wide metaplot meetings. Those ones were open. The Dunlin Elder portion of it. There was side plot that none of us save the Dunlin Elders and their +1's were invited to. And for the record? I'm of the belief that not everyone can be in every plot. Boo hoo that we were excluded. Was it fun? No. Was it the end of the world and cause for storming off the MU in a huff? Nah.

@Sunny said in Kushiel's Debut:

@VulgarKitten said in Kushiel's Debut:

You came at me in a scene

Er, no. Lara came over to Lili's house and got in her face. Lili reacted poorly. I said nothing about the OOC spat to anyone until I got paged by Stan asking me if I knew you were bitching to anyone with an ear. Then the same thing, from Barnabas. I told them both what really happened and kind of wigged out because the ooc shittalking was a bit surprising/uncomfortable making. When we were chatting after the fact I did apologize that Lili reacted in a way that you found not fun, because the character was raw. You didn't just politely ask to FTB, either. You got in my virtual face about how wrong Lili's reactions were and how bad I was because you didn't enjoy that type of RP. After instigating it.

Not even remotely true and I heard from Ross and Lucas and Tank and several others how you were bitching that I'd even dare to ask to FTB and tell you that I wasn't having fun playing the scene. 'Oh, and you probably shouldn't make any more joking comments about her ex-bf's dick in a scene because she's OOCly mad about that part. That's why she ICly freaked out on you'. Lara came over to Soleil's house and apologized, and you turned the scene into something vastly unpleasant because of OOC jealousy. So I asked (and it was very politely) to FTB.

Not the way it appeared to a group of us Dunlins who were excluded, despite asking to be included.

Bboard posts detailing when the scenes were, how people could get involved, and what people could do were on the bboard regularly. If there were specific things that people were being excluded from I can guarantee it was coming from Spider, not me. She was leaving me out of the big Dunlin stuff, too -- so I went off and played metaplot because whatever.

But you were involved with the Dunlin Elder stuff in a lot of ways. And you never fought for the rest of us to be involved. That's why this smacks of hypocrisy to me. You get all up in arms in this case, but back then it was 'oh, well, not everyone can be involved in everything'.

Is this all you've got?

Yes. Because what you're saying is seriously not even close to true.

@Sunny said in Kushiel's Debut:

@VulgarKitten said in Kushiel's Debut:

Funny. A bunch of people said the same about you. Weird how that works. I think the exact phrasing was 'control freak with the tendency to bring IC to the OOC when it relates to relationships gone awry'. This particular situation (afaik) has nothing to do with that particular character trait. It seemed unnecessary to mention it but if you want to get into that kind of drama I can play.

Save that...this doesn't even have anything to do with the issue you and I had. Like. I think you're genuinely misremembering here. You came at me OOC because my character was an IC bitch about something. You had OOC issues with my PC's IC behavior and completely lost your shit.

You came at me in a scene about some relationship after I had literally just joined the game and had maybe two scenes total. I said to you (OOC) that I wasn't having fun in the scene, mind if we FTB? And then you went apeshit. I heard from a crazy number of people 'Oh man, you shouldn't have said that to her, she's running a campaign against you now OOC'. I remember it accurately enough. It was a great first impression. Later, when we were hatchet burying, you apologized over it and told me that you were 'just raw because of how things had worked out for you IC'. Skipping now to the stuff that's relevant here in this situation...

As for getting people involved on TR, there were plenty of people bitching because you (and the others) were doing the exact opposite.

That's great. I didn't make everybody happy, the way I did things didn't. The fact of the matter is that I put a great deal of effort into trying to include people. Seriously. Open-to-everyone scenes every other weekend covering Metaplot 101, then sharing any new information people had. Me plot-hoarding and being exclusive is literally the furthest thing from the truth. You can bitch all day about how it was a bad effort or that I should have done something else instead, but you seriously cannot truthfully say I excluded people. There was a total of one person that was, due to their IC behavior, ICly not allowed to come to the meetings. One.

Not the way it appeared to a group of us Dunlins who were excluded, despite asking to be included.

You left in a dramatic fashion because things weren't going your way, kind of like this situation. I remember you complaining to me about it, back when I thought we'd legit buried that hatchet.

Are you...just smoking crack? Do you seriously not remember this stuff and are just making things up to sound better? You're seriously going to...holy crap, woman. Do you have me mixed up with someone else in your head? I mean, I know you know I played Lili, but I think you're confusing Lili-stuff with other stuff. There's no other logical explanation here because you're so far off base.

Is this all you've got?

You were staff. You shared your grievances. This person was staff. They shared your grievances because your grievances were part of their grievances. It's the same thing.

Content and context are important. Period.

So I think we've made all the points and now this is just going in circles?