@Kireek said in Arx- Gareth:
@Kayne Qwest If you don't realize that people have been asking for ooc support in games and talking oocly about the game I have to ask what exactly were you hoping to happen? The sad fact of the matter I too have been personally asked by a number of people oocly which by definition broke the rules about support and asking for support. The thing is I didn't get upset about it, even in scenes where I supported 1 or 0, and was asked, I didn't feel pressured, and the thing is.. people are still going to be doing it.
People can talk OOCly about the game all they like. What you (and by you I mean everyone) are not allowed to do is pressure people OOC for support on your IC task. Those tasks give good rewards, and the reason they give good rewards is: we are using the task system to incentivize people ROLEPLAYING with each other. Sending a messenger and then paging someone "lul can u support me pls? i'll do u a favor in the future/won't inquisit you/everyone is doing it". That is not allowed. And if people do it, and we hear about it, they will be warned and then asked to leave.
So I just want to summarize-
1.May be being a little overly sensitive on that issue- but fair enough, I'll concede that point. All I ask is that when the support system got blown up on the channels as decreasing usability and I was only once voice in that debate of a number.. did those people also get an equal talking to? If not, why not?
No one got talked to for disagreeing with changes or offering alternatives/complaints. Not even you. I think what you are really asking here is "did other people who were NOT being constructive, and were just upset about the changes get talked to?" There were only two of you doing that. And the answer is yes - though don't imply that is the only reason you got that talk. You were always saying "Sigh" or "grumps" or "bleh" or "this kind of...sucks" on public channels, and frankly we don't want people being huge mopey downers in our public channels. You were invited several times to make posts on the system discussions board, or put in requests with your thoughts/objections/alternative ideas. How many times did you take advantage of that?
2.Lul. Harass, nonsense. Unfortunately you are by definition creating an atmosphere where even being friendly about asking for support can be construed as lawbreaking and rule breaking- the worst part is that just sent all that shit underground and out of the game. Do you think the houses with large support networks are getting that support without reminding people to make sure they do their support? It happens, and instead of banning it outright.. it perhaps might of been wiser to try and regulate it because now players who know each other are just going to keep talking about it secretly while new players without those connections are going to be functioning without a paddle.
If that happens, we'll adjust! The game is in alpha (though I think it's a matter of DAYS at this point. Woo!)
- Did not ask to see that players stats. If saying I'm curious about the rest of a players sheet now once I learned they had freely offered 100 xp into another bit of stats is asking.. and then they offer it, I didn't technically ask, did I, I never demanded they tell me either.
If you had bothered to bring your concerns to the appropriate people, I would have happily explained to you that non combat skills cost half what combat skills do, and absolutely ANY cg could have a 5 in a non combat skill and a few other skills at 1 sprinkled about. The XP pool for CGs is EXACTLY THE SAME, and we use that SAME CG to make roster characters and NPCs. There was no sheet twinking, and I would have gladly explained that if you'd done anything other than bitch at that player on channel.
4,Personality Conflict- I really have a hard time buying that.... but okay... love that is an offense now... and is definitely something you can pin on me... so alright fair enough?... Words.. Every... word..
This is exactly why you are a personality conflict, btw. You don't like/approve of the way we want the game environment to be, and so you just nod through our attempts to explain it to you and go right back to what you were doing. What we have here is a failure to communicate. I'm not pinning that on anyone, but we called it what it was and freed both you and us up to move on.
