Posts made by Kanye Qwest

Ok I amend my statement again. Thenomain can go fuck herself, since only catty sorts use winky smileys.

Ok then, I amend my statement. We freed ourselves up. Thenomain is also now free to go fuck himself, as rigorously as he can manage.

Keeping him on the game would have ultimately been a waste of his time, as well as ours. It already sort of was - part of his (valid) complaint is that the decision sucked because he'd invested so much. I get that. It did suck. It was a sucky decision to make.

It was still the right decision. Now it's done, we can focus on what we were doing, he can focus on whatever he wants. I bear @Kireek no ill will at all. I hope he has a lot of fun in games that are more balanced around powergamers. It's a valid gaming style, that we have chosen not to cater to.

I don't know why my phrase incited victim rage in Thenomain, but whatever. I skim him tbh fyi omg.

@Kireek said in Arx- Gareth:

@Kayne Qwest If you don't realize that people have been asking for ooc support in games and talking oocly about the game I have to ask what exactly were you hoping to happen? The sad fact of the matter I too have been personally asked by a number of people oocly which by definition broke the rules about support and asking for support. The thing is I didn't get upset about it, even in scenes where I supported 1 or 0, and was asked, I didn't feel pressured, and the thing is.. people are still going to be doing it.

People can talk OOCly about the game all they like. What you (and by you I mean everyone) are not allowed to do is pressure people OOC for support on your IC task. Those tasks give good rewards, and the reason they give good rewards is: we are using the task system to incentivize people ROLEPLAYING with each other. Sending a messenger and then paging someone "lul can u support me pls? i'll do u a favor in the future/won't inquisit you/everyone is doing it". That is not allowed. And if people do it, and we hear about it, they will be warned and then asked to leave.

So I just want to summarize-
1.May be being a little overly sensitive on that issue- but fair enough, I'll concede that point. All I ask is that when the support system got blown up on the channels as decreasing usability and I was only once voice in that debate of a number.. did those people also get an equal talking to? If not, why not?

No one got talked to for disagreeing with changes or offering alternatives/complaints. Not even you. I think what you are really asking here is "did other people who were NOT being constructive, and were just upset about the changes get talked to?" There were only two of you doing that. And the answer is yes - though don't imply that is the only reason you got that talk. You were always saying "Sigh" or "grumps" or "bleh" or "this kind of...sucks" on public channels, and frankly we don't want people being huge mopey downers in our public channels. You were invited several times to make posts on the system discussions board, or put in requests with your thoughts/objections/alternative ideas. How many times did you take advantage of that?

2.Lul. Harass, nonsense. Unfortunately you are by definition creating an atmosphere where even being friendly about asking for support can be construed as lawbreaking and rule breaking- the worst part is that just sent all that shit underground and out of the game. Do you think the houses with large support networks are getting that support without reminding people to make sure they do their support? It happens, and instead of banning it outright.. it perhaps might of been wiser to try and regulate it because now players who know each other are just going to keep talking about it secretly while new players without those connections are going to be functioning without a paddle.

If that happens, we'll adjust! The game is in alpha (though I think it's a matter of DAYS at this point. Woo!)

3. Did not ask to see that players stats. If saying I'm curious about the rest of a players sheet now once I learned they had freely offered 100 xp into another bit of stats is asking.. and then they offer it, I didn't technically ask, did I, I never demanded they tell me either.

If you had bothered to bring your concerns to the appropriate people, I would have happily explained to you that non combat skills cost half what combat skills do, and absolutely ANY cg could have a 5 in a non combat skill and a few other skills at 1 sprinkled about. The XP pool for CGs is EXACTLY THE SAME, and we use that SAME CG to make roster characters and NPCs. There was no sheet twinking, and I would have gladly explained that if you'd done anything other than bitch at that player on channel.

4,Personality Conflict- I really have a hard time buying that.... but okay... love that is an offense now... and is definitely something you can pin on me... so alright fair enough?... Words.. Every... word..

This is exactly why you are a personality conflict, btw. You don't like/approve of the way we want the game environment to be, and so you just nod through our attempts to explain it to you and go right back to what you were doing. What we have here is a failure to communicate. I'm not pinning that on anyone, but we called it what it was and freed both you and us up to move on.

Double post, I know! I'm the worst. I just wanted to say: we did not talk to/ask Gareth's player to leave for being creepy. I mean, the character he was playing was kind of creepy, but I got no impression (or reports) that he was being inappropriately creepy or harassing female players or anything like that.

His playstyle wasn't a good fit for Arx, but I didn't think he was being a terrible person, is what I'm trying to say.

I didn't even realize he was doing what he did to Dawn, or he would have been asked to leave sooner. We (Apostate and I both) talked to this player about his OOC behavior and his negativity at any changes announced (usually because they were damaging some advantage he thought he was building up), because what is very important to us is that embittered or high maintenance people don't drive away new, inexperienced players.

I think it's pretty telling that you didn't give the actual reason Apostate gave for asking you to leave.

"The problem is it is too fundamental to personality conflicts and that I just don't have time since I'd have to be coaching you constantly to avoid the kind of things I see as problematic and I just cannot do that and run the game. I really wish it was otherwise but it won't work out."

You were told more than once, publicly and privately, that we value fun and demand OOC civility. You were told specifically that we don't allow you to harass/cajole/even ask players for IC support OOC, and told explicitly that you are not to ask players about their stats. I get that these things might not seem like a big deal, and in the grand scheme of things, they absolutely aren't. But we have a very, very small staff, and we intend to keep it that way by reducing GM overhead and busywork, and being firm and prompt about removing players we feel will demand more work from us. We aren't babysitters, so if you keep doing things that mean we have to keep watching you for problematic behavior, that's you..

For Arx, we have convictions about the game and the type of environment we are trying to foster, and we stand by those. I'm sorry that asking you to leave Arx upset you, I know that has to suck. I'm not sorry that we asked you to leave.

I love you on Dawn! All the upvotes.

@ThatOneDude said in The Descent MUX:

. That's one thing and its small but additionally Mage's have disbelief, paradox, and hubris to contend with.

Disbelief is an actual game disadvantage? So if you don't believe in magic, it doesn't work on you, or something like that?

How about let people live, holy shit.

@Lotherio You're right, and it's both hilarious and sad that most of the other people in this thread don't seem to have come to the same conclusion.

Pedantry is only fun for the pedant. When I'm talking about fun and a good story and you are arguing that it's not 'realistic' because "whatever bullshit thing I read about instead of learning to perform oral sex", then please stop. That's the end of my contribution to the discussion, though. I'd never personally dabble in a game that was presenting itself as history accurate, because I already know who is going to be up in that game, ruining all the fun.

@Lotherio I get it, I just still think that sort of game would require constant GMing and plot feed to sustain any number of players, unless you just want three history pedants arguing in the ooc channel about which clasp was possible in what year and what it meant for pack animals, or some shit.

@Lotherio Considering that most people don't have the sort of historical knowledge necessary to rp slice of life in such specific settings, what do you propose people rp about? Are you longing for these settings in a mud game where there's free pk and raiding/war to keep people occupied?

@Thenomain It started that way! Then it became a game to see how many nametags I could talk people out of, everywhere I went. When I gave up on it, I was up around 40, including mine.

Sunglasses. Used to be nametags.

Suicide Squad would have been a mildly fun, totally forgettable movie except it triggers trypophobia and I spent about 25% of it unable to look at the screen.

0/10

@Kwashiorkor said in RL Anger:

I find it really annoying when people make a point to judge works of fiction or art based on how well it conforms to their political ideology. Examples might include hating on comic books because the illustrations of women are "oversexualized" or finding that anything which has a non-lolbertarian perspective amounts to worthless communist propaganda.

Similarly, I actually don't like most propaganda pieces of our era. Things like American Sniper and the Ghostbusters remake elicit eyerolls not just because they're political propaganda, but because so many people are emotionally invested in them not being regarded as political propaganda.

I think our culture is too politicized, and we're too concerned with what other people think and not concerned enough with if their thoughts are sane or are even presented well.

Oh hi, Rick Sanchez.

No no, see. First Blade shows up, and kills all the pretty teenage vampires. Then the Winchesters show up and kill Blade. Best series finale ever.

It's so satisfying to see someone get sassy about how careful they are when they have misunderstood something. Hate when it happens to me, but lawls.

@skew But wasn't he already uninvolved with the game by his own choice?

@ThatGuyThere Blaming the victim is gross, no matter the context.