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    Posts made by Kestrel

    • RE: The Dark Side of online Role-Playing

      @Auspice said in The Dark Side of online Role-Playing:

      15-year-old RPing vampire sex with another 15-year old: OK
      15-year-old RPing vampire sex with a 45-year-old: Not OK

      Educating your child on how to tell the difference and to feel safe and comfortable coming to you if the latter scenario happens: GOOD.

      Being a major court case waiting to happen while trying to insist the latter is the child's fault and parents need to be OK with it: NOT GOOD.

      tbh, just to be a super nitpicker and switch sides here yet again, I don't think I would trust most fifteen year olds to be kind to other fifteen year olds either.

      idk what kind of 15 year olds you knew when you were 15 but most of the ones I had the misfortune of dealing with were super not into consent and mostly motivated by what will give them street-cred and seem cool in their heads.

      A kid at my college got in trouble for spreading child porn after he filmed his short-term girlfriend performing a consensual sexual act, and then proceeded to nonconsensually share the video with all his friends. Because people are awful like that.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: The Dark Side of online Role-Playing

      @tek said in The Dark Side of online Role-Playing:

      @Kestrel There's that, and then there's what this thread has turned into, which is @Carex saying that kids who rp sex are little sluts who can handle his digital dick. There's room for discussion on the former. The latter needs to be shut down HARD.

      Yeah, and I don't agree with that at all.

      But as far as @Ghost's comment on 'the politics of monitoring your child's online behaviour in a way that is healthy for them', I'm also going to more mildly disagree that this is a separate issue.

      Without condoning any predatory sexual behaviour on children online, I share @Derp's particular perspective that the first post on this thread had me nodding my head in fervent agreement, thinking 'good shit, good shit', until I got to a latter portion of the post that had me raising an eyebrow.

      I hope my initial response came across as sufficiently nuanced; I don't think my perspective on this is relevant in every case, given every child is different. I just think it's a point worth discussing a bit more calmly when we're done bashing @Carex.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: The Dark Side of online Role-Playing

      @Ghost said in The Dark Side of online Role-Playing:

      @Derp said in The Dark Side of online Role-Playing:

      Ultimately it probably won't change anything. But there are two distinct lines of thought in this particular thread, and that's probably at least worth discussing.

      Or a spin-off thread about snooping on your kids.

      This one really was supposed to be about online dangers to minors and not about the politics of monitoring your child's online behavior in a way that is healthy for them.

      Except there is an argument to be made that spying on your children to the degree that they feel unsafe and unable to trust or talk to you will do the exact opposite of protecting them from predators, and instead send them running straight into their arms. So it's directly relevant to the topic at hand.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: The Dark Side of online Role-Playing

      I commend parents who are worried and invested in their children's safety, but I really don't think snooping on their online behaviour is the right way to go about things in most cases.

      Look. It's not my job to tell anyone how to parent. Every child is different and I assume you know yours well enough to make responsible decisions.

      All I can say is that if I had suspicions I was being snooped on as a child, it would have:

      • decreased my trust in my carer
      • made me less likely to talk to them about anything that was going on in my life that I suspected might merit concern, out of fear they would "freak out" / "overreact"
      • encouraged me to sneak behind their back
      • disincentived me from partaking in any activity I suspected they could monitor

      Maybe you guys all have amazing kids who always do what they're told and love and trust you unconditionally. Kudos to you. Personally, I was an absolute little shit and any time my parents/carers gave me any kinds of rules/regulations, I would just be doubly motivated to find ways around them.

      My family never treated alcohol as any kind of taboo; so I never treated it as one and never got excited about booze at parties. I drank minimally/responsibly and to this day think I have a much, much healthier relationship with alcohol than the average Brit.

      But they did very strictly control what I was/wasn't allowed to eat, taught me that there were good foods and bad foods, and I developed an eating disorder. I don't think my healthy relationship with alcohol compared to my unhealthy relationship with food is coincidental.

      When I was a teenager experimenting and talking to strangers online, I briefly made mention of this at one point to my older sister (10 years my senior, who was often responsible for raising me), who immediately freaked out and printed off a bunch of articles about paedophiles snatching children. I thought this was absolute cringe and it just taught me to lie about who I was talking to, so I'd say this is a friend from school, etc.

      I wish I actually had someone I could trust growing up, whom I would've felt safe talking to about matters of sexual curiosity etc., because then maybe instead of playing the role of a good little innocent virgin I could've actually communicated my discomfort about my earliest exposures to sex without fear of being judged, blamed or punished.

      My 2c.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff

      @JinShei said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      @Kestrel said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      @Groth said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      @Kestrel said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:
      I'm not sure this counts as Health & Wealth & GrownUp Stuff but in other news the upcoming election is seriously affecting my mental health. I'm looking forward to it all being over, one way or another.

      Seconded. Between this and Brexit, I can't open my twitter feed without an anxiety burst.

      I think it would be easier if I could just resign myself to worst case scenario, but that flicker of hope/uncertainty keeps me glued to the news. It's like being strung along by a bad relationship.

      Otherwise to be honest at this point I would just rather not read it.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff

      @Groth said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      @Kestrel said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      On a MUSH, this would be solved with a nice clean ban. 😞

      So I don't know the law where you live, but since you said this is an association owned house, that means the possibility exists of her being evicted if she is sufficiently disruptive.

      Where I live it takes quite a lot to reach that point as long as theyre paying their fees on time, but breaking and entering into your neighbors sounds up there.

      You might want to talk with the association board, maybe this isnt her first time doing this kind of thing.

      Yeah, so here's the thing. The neighbours convene annually to elect/reelect the board of directors for the company which owns the building (which is the neighbours, it's all very Marxist). I was present at the December meeting to vote on the 2020 cycle where she was nominated — at which point someone turned to me and asked if I'd like to second, and I shrugged and said, sure, I'll second. (Again, she seemed like such a sweet old lady at the time.) So uh, yeah. Yikes. She has all the power here, which is why I'm getting a lawyer involved without delay. I don't think this is going to be solved with civil dialogue given she's already jumped to such extreme measures over something so small. Shit like this is major red flag behaviour.

      Among her threats — my lease contract says I'm allowed pets under the condition that I clean up after them and don't cause a nuisance to the neighbours. This is a term I fought to have added prior to purchasing the property because there's no other reason I'd want to live in a ground-floor garden flat. So she said she'd complain about the animal I haven't even gotten yet over this; I've been eagerly waiting to move house before adopting a new one, after my bestie passed last year.

      @JinShei said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      @Derp said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      @JinShei said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      @Carex said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      @Kestrel
      Also, remember, once she is inside your house you can shoot her dead. Just make sure she is fully inside the residence. If you have a restraining order out on her and she breaks into your home, you have a license to kill.

      Just finish the job. Shoot her at least three times at range, wait about a minute, call 911 while she bleeds out, try to sound like you're confused and in shock.

      You scare me 😛

      That is not true in every state or every situation.

      Best not.

      I'll be over here, in the UK.. Being scared of different things.

      alt text

      I'm not sure this counts as Health & Wealth & GrownUp Stuff but in other news the upcoming election is seriously affecting my mental health. I'm looking forward to it all being over, one way or another.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff

      @Carex

      We don't have guns here.

      But I can live vicariously through your sick, deranged fantasies. Thank you. These are now my own.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff

      @Carex said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      @Kestrel said in Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff:

      Update:

      The crazy fucking bitch BROKE MY GARDEN DOOR. From the outside. With PHYSICAL FORCE.

      I’m getting a lawyer involved.

      Also booking a contractor pronto to wall off the entire garden before she gets any ideas about that fence.

      Make sure you go by your local courthouse tomorrow and take out a restraining order.
      Then if she shows up at your house you can call the cops on her.
      Also, your lawyer will love it so you can claim emotional damages if you go to court.
      He can say you felt threatened and had to involve the law.

      Yeah, a restraining order was the next step I was thinking of because I didn’t “feel” threatened, I 100% was threatened, a number of times, with implications of blackmail and then actually breaking and entering was one hell of a step too far.

      I’m just trying to think if that’s too much?

      Ugh. I just moved in. Been loving it so far. It sucks to find out that my neighbour’s a nutjob in under two weeks flat.

      At this point I don’t even think any kind of communication with her that doesn’t have a lawyer involved is worth it. If she’s willing to do this, no amount of civil dialogue is going to do jack.

      On a MUSH, this would be solved with a nice clean ban. 😞

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff

      Update:

      The crazy fucking bitch BROKE MY GARDEN DOOR. From the outside. With PHYSICAL FORCE.

      I’m getting a lawyer involved.

      Also booking a contractor pronto to wall off the entire garden before she gets any ideas about that fence.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff

      Amazing good life stuff: I just moved into a new place and as far as the physical is concerned, I love it. Nice area, nice apartment, nicely-sized garden. It came utterly barren and unfurnished which is actually a good thing as far as I'm concerned, because I finally get a place I can truly make my own, design/paint it just the way I like it, add a lot of personal touches.

      Amazing bad life stuff: It's a Share of Leasehold property which means that while I own the apartment, I don't own the building it's contained in, the ownership of which is shared between the other neighbours, with whom I'm to have semiannual meetings to discuss things like how much money we're going to spend this year on maintaining/refurbishing the garden and outside area etc., and whether there are any present issues with the property. I didn't think this would be a problem when I moved in, because I figured adults would be reasonable, but fuck me, turns out the vast majority of my new neighbours are no-lifer retirees/widows with nothing better to do than gossip, bitch, complain and spy on each other.

      So the sweet old lady next-door asked if she could have a key to my garden; reason being that her gardener currently has to pass through her flat to access her garden, whereas my garden has external access, and he could just pass through my garden into hers. I said I'd think about it but after doing so and consulting some more experienced friends, I politely told her I was uncomfortable with this, as while I trust her not to do anything untoward, I don't know/trust her gardener and don't want him to have a key to an area that directly overlooks my bedroom + ensuite bathroom, nor to the glass door to my living room, which I already have security concerns about living in a ground-floor flat. For her it's an inconvenience issue; for me it's a security and privacy issue.

      She seemed like such a sweet old lady when I met her, and asked so sweetly, so I thought this would be fine, and she'd politely, Britishly understand and say 'no problem, thought I'd ask'. Except the moment I told her no, she immediately proceeded to flare up and throw an absolute tantrum, yell at and then threaten me.

      Well fucking shit. I don't know where to go from here. Do I continue to be polite and offer a compromise (which I was going to before she lost her shit — I was going to suggest I could let her gardener in if she lets me know in advance when to be around to do so) or do I immediately cut off all contact with her and try my best to avoid her? Because she could actually make real trouble for me, due to the terms and conditions of my purchase, and I was not looking forward to making war with the neighbours the second I moved in.

      Note to self: Never trust sweet old ladies.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: RL things I love

      Throwing things away.

      Lawd, throwing things away is fun.

      I know I’m being a bad environmentalist. I know I should recycle and repurpose this stuff. But I’m in the process of moving house and the contractors are swooping in so fast on my old place that I do not have time. So, in anticipation of their arrival tomorrow to tear up and repurpose this place, I have been throwing out every single piece of accumulated junk from the last 8 years I’ve lived here. I cannot explain the sheer glee doing this has filled me with.

      When people hear I’m in the process of moving house they keep offering me condolences like this must be such a difficult time for me and I’m like, no. I fucking hate this place. Saying goodbye is a joy. I just don’t want the door to hit itself on my way out.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: The ethics of IC romance, TS, etc

      My hot take is this:

      Unless you are in an explicitly polyamorous relationship IRL, or have otherwise discussed your TS habits with your RL partner, who is aware and genuinely doesn't mind, TS, and most MU* romance RP, constitutes cheating.

      I'm not into polyamory IRL so I don't TS unless I'm single. I just think, if my partner were looking over my shoulder right now, would I be comfortable typing this? If the answer is no, I don't.


      As for anything else, things that happen between game characters are IC and should stay IC. I don't feel any kind of obligation to my character's IC partners. That relationship isn't real. I think discussing the ethics of "cheating" on your character's partner is the wrong one to have.

      Hoo boy. I'm going to catch flak for this one.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: MU Things I Love

      Watching people who've been unreasonably nasty to me start being unreasonably nasty to each other is always cathartic.

      alt text

      posted in Mildly Constructive
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: Serious Question About Making A MU

      This has been a very encouraging thread for someone with no coding skill to read.

      I want to add something to @Jeshin's advice on asking people for feedback, though.

      Know when feedback is worthless. Know when someone's critique of an idea isn't an indication that your idea is bad, but that your idea isn't for them. You don't have to make a game for everyone.

      I have a good friend who thinks all of my favourite shows/films/artists are rubbish. Probably because many of them are female-dominated, camp or queer-friendly. He likes John Wick, I like Atomic Blonde. He likes The Crow, I like The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I decided not to take offence recently when he indicated disinterest in a nonbinary/genderfluid concept of mine. We're friends for other reasons.

      Pursue an idea that you feel passionate about, first and foremost. There's no other reason to do anything IMO. Don't let general consensus water it down. Cater to the fringe you want to attract.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: Health and Wealth and GrownUp Stuff

      Really starting to feel like I need better friends.

      A lot of people in my life treat me like shit, probably because over the years, I have allowed them to. As I grow and come into my own, though, I'm becoming less and less okay with this.

      Problem is, what do I do? I've already cultivated an extensive and incorrigible circle around me. Do I just cut all ties, put my foot down, walk away and start fresh? I mean, then I would have no social life at all, at least for a while, until I've figured things out. I feel like isolating myself would be worse for my mental health than having a good number of steady but shitty friends.

      posted in Tastes Less Game'y
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: MU Things I Love

      Getting to be pleasantly surprised by the conduct of someone you'd assumed the worst of.

      Sometimes it's nice to be wrong about someone.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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      Kestrel
    • RE: Spars and fights

      @Arkandel said in Spars and fights:

      Aside from the outcome, using dice or not... aside from all that, I think it's important everyone agrees beforehand how it's going to be, because mixing those things usually won't work well.

      I know this is kind of bad and communication is important and all that, but having to do this takes a lot of the magic out of it for me.

      I really enjoy spontaneity in my RP, regardless of whether we're talking about a casual social, a fight, etc. I don't want to plan the fine points of every scene ahead.

      Some basic things like, 'How do you want to do this? Dice-rolls, freestyle? ...' Sure, fine. And I will of course temperature-check if I'm worried about my RP partner's comfort, I don't want them to think that I OOCly hate them just because my character does, and I don't want to spring graphic gore on the squeamish.

      But if I need to discuss my expectations of banter and pacing beforehand? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh.

      I'd rather do that very casually in a shared OOC setting like this one, or an in-game lounge/channel. I can't be the only one who, when starting a scene, prefers for there to be as little OOC chit-chat and background-noise as possible to get things rolling organically.

      I also do not honestly mind if someone has a different RP/writing style than me. I appreciate differences; they offer an opportunity to potentially be inspired and reevaluate my own preferences.

      While I have my own opinions on what makes an epic fight scene, my day isn't ruined just because someone did or didn't pronate their wrist.

      I'm a pretty agreeable person though and generally quite happy to go with the flow of whatever the other person wants. I don't care if you want dice-rolls or not. I prefer freestyle but it's nbd for me to adapt when in Rome. So perhaps my preference for minimal pre-talk has a lot to do with the fact that it's all just the same to me, but then I also think I'd have more fun RPing with someone who has a similar Yes-And, flexy improvisational attitude, and not someone who feels the need to dictate an excess of rules and regs beforehand. That all just makes me feel a little bit claustrophobic.

      These questions are fun to think about in a less consequential context, but when it comes to go-time my real main preference is that neither of us takes things too seriously.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: Spars and fights

      @Arkandel said in Spars and fights:

      Let me ask a different question for the thread.

      Is 'knowing how to fight iRL' - having some kind of background in martial arts, or even just watching MMA stuff on TV - an advantage to roleplaying such scenes?

      Yes, absolutely.

      I mean I'm biased because I already pretty much said this in my previous post, but to elaborate, and emphatically echo my sentiment:

      Yes, absolutely.

      A few of my favourite people to RP fight scenes with tend to also be people who either have a background in martial arts, or grew up rough and have at the very least been in fights at some point in their lives. I also find they tend to be the people most consistently praised by others for it.

      It's painfully obvious to me when I'm reading poses from a combat character whose player has probably never actually been hit in their life. I find they're far more likely to RP ignoring pain, and their combat writing tends to come across as very robotic. Ironically, they tend to focus a lot more on technique — x slashes y with a sword. x steps forward. x punches y. They don't consider things like 'how long can I keep going before I get exhausted', 'how much did that actually hurt', 'what does it feel like to be in this much pain and how is it going to affect my ability to hit back'.

      If I'm playing a character who should realistically know how to fight, I certainly do tend to make use of real-life knowledge, but that — the techniques — are not the main thing. I find a marked difference in the emotive aspect of how people who have at the very least been in real fights know how to write fights.

      For me, it's a much more immersive experience. Most people tend to focus on the attacks and the action. I'm more interested in how the action makes your character feel.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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      Kestrel
    • RE: Spars and fights

      I generally tend to lose emote fights if they aren't based on mechanical decision-making, because I'm usually the person who cares less about the outcome.

      I really, really enjoy a good emote fight. It's honestly one of my favourite things to RP. I have a lot of martial arts experience IRL, so I also think I tend to be pretty good at it in terms of portraying realism. (I will freely admit I also tend to give other people the side-eye, secretly, when I feel their fights lack this.)

      A good emote fight should be dynamic, gritty, and convey a sense of the characters involved.

      [ Disclaimer: this is my personal preference and I am not trying to wrongfun. ] I do not enjoy superhero movies at all and when it comes to RP, I find superhero-style fights to be an absolute snorefest too. I don't want to read/participate in an emote involving big dramatic fireballs and sonic rays or whatever behind hurled across a city by perfect people with perfect bodies. I want to write fights that are up close and personal, involving characters who are getting sweaty, tired, frustrated, and with every second that passes by there is an increasing risk that they're going to slip up, lose their concentration and momentum, and fail to block or connect. I want to see characters resorting to dirty tactics like pulling the other person's hair, going for the groin or throwing sand in their eyes. I want to see them getting bruised and ugly. And I want a heavy focus to be on how that makes them feel, their facial expressions: is there fear in their eyes? Are they ashamed of their performance? Are they getting mad? Do they hate the other person? Or is it a playful sexy fight and is hair falling in front of their eyes?

      Who actually wins the fight matters less to me than all of that. If I'm RPing with a friend I usually defer to them and ask if they want to do this with dice/code etc. or if they'd rather freestyle it. I find most people tend to want to rely on code (possibly because they're more likely to be guaranteed a win vs. me this way as I don't often make strong combat characters), but I'm usually always secretly hoping they choose freestyle. I don't want the outcome determined ahead, I want it determined over the course of the fight based on whatever feels right in the moment. Realistically, the winner should usually whoever's character is portrayed as having more experience. If I'm playing an international spy trained in krav maga and you're playing a socialite, I expect you to use common sense and respect my portrayal of their fighting know-how, and not try to get away with just getting lucky.

      However, as I find most people really like winning and will write in a way more focused on making their character look good, it usually just naturally occurs that I've spent more time writing about how my character is getting tired, sweaty and nervous, and so by default the fights don't read in my character's favour, comparatively.

      I do enjoy other people's approval, so my personal "win" is being appreciated, having my writing style praised, and being thanked or talked-up for a good scene. So I'm not trying to say I don't have an ego on the line here, I just derive it through other means.

      Overly detailed combat systems that tell you which body part you've hit and rely on a specific weapon tend to fall short for my tastes because they can very quickly get very stale.

      I enjoy a bar fight where we're moving from one room to the other, one moment using a stool for a shield, a fist for a weapon, and the next leaping onto the counter for a kick or trying to strike with a bottle over the head. These kinds of organic, dynamic, improvisational fighting styles aren't really possible if you're having to rely on your best weapon stat etc. There isn't room for intermission, playful banter etc., because doing so means you're wasting your turn.

      This is one of my all-time favourite fight scenes from one of my all-time favourite movies, Atomic Blonde. Which probably gives a good idea of what I like to see. I love the little details, for example where both opponents keep trying to stand because it's a life-or-death situation, but they're so dizzy from blood loss and blunt trauma they keep falling over. They murder each other through what amounts to a drunken haze.

      But for a more light-hearted, playful fight, there's also this entertaining scene from Pirates of the Caribbean. It has everything I mentioned liking about the characters making good use of their environment, adapting to changing circumstances, moving around rather than just standing there hitting each other, etc.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
      Kestrel
      Kestrel
    • RE: Do you care about other people's music?

      @Thenomain said in Do you care about other people's music?:

      There really is no dearth of discovering music these days and no right or wrong way to do it.

      I do hope there wasn't any sense on this thread that anyone was trying to imply this, but for my part, that was not my intention.

      posted in Mildly Constructive
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      Kestrel
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