@Arkandel
Goddamnit dude, fuck me for opening that at work.
Kinda funny how I never used to have like a strong external emotional response to articles like that, but now that my kid lives with me I can't even make it through the headline without spraying around like broken faucet.
CAT: THE GUARDIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've got to say, this is one of the most inane things to argue about that I've ever seen here.
I finally got custody of my kid this year, after his mother's family reached out to me and let me know he was being severely neglected. His mom was just locking him in his room all day, every day, only interacting with him at meal times...she didn't potty train him, she didn't vaccinate him, she didn't educate him or play with him, so when he came out here he was a mess. He has come so far in so many ways in the five months that I've had him but I am still so stunned I get literally ill every time I think about it. He is the most adorable little dude in the universe and I can't even believe I used to be in love with her, it makes me question whether I ever really knew her at all.
Taking him in has also changed my life in ways that I still don't understand. I had a group of friends I used to see pretty regularly, and they've basically disappeared. They make zero effort to see me or get involved, and so I have no real social life anymore.
Before I had my kid he was practically all I thought about in my free time and I was severely depressed, and I thought that would change when he came out and in a lot of ways it has, he is a little ball of sunshine and I love him to death...but now I'm just lonely and exhausted all the time. Jesus, single dad life.
@Cobaltasaurus said in City of Angels MUX (CofD/nWoD 2E):
Demon is fundamentally not very good on a MU* from everything I've heard about it. The aspect of ULTRA secrecy above and beyond the other splats is often times not fun, ignored, or taken to the extremes. The idea of the ever presence of angels and the god-machine is also a lot of staff work.
Yeah we really just need a Demon MU*. And it should really be set in the 80's BECAUSE WHY NOT TWO THINGS I CAN NEVER HAVE 
@Misadventure said in Coming soon: Lawless Space MUSH:
Make Rocket Raccoon as an example.
Annnnd Bender Bending Rodriguez.
Perhaps the Stainless Steel Rat.
Yeah, instead of or in addition to random examples actually putting together character sheets is a great idea, I think it would help some of the concepts behind CG gel for Fate newbies, especially since some of it is kinda abstract.
Another thing I noticed is that the application news file is pretty vague in terms of what limitations, if any, are in place aside from not just setting yourself up as supreme leader. What's the skill cap? Refresh, if not 3? How will players buy extras?
One idea I actually liked from the other couple Fate games I've seen is an additional restriction on alts, where only one or two are allotted a high Refresh to buy powers. It'd be kind of fun to give people your one (or whatever) "crazy-go-nuts" powerful character and then encourage the rest to be a little more mortal in my opinion, but YMMV.
I have maybe fifteen friends and literally hundreds of people I'm friendly with. That's an important distinction. Still, I've been there dude, that blows.
I poked around a little bit and I am still SUPER PUMPED about this.
One suggestion I'd make, and maybe you might be working on this already, but CGen and especially CGHelp is very bare bones. You include a link to the Fate Core SRD in your news files and it's great, but it's more oriented towards GMs. I think some unique examples of how players might set up aspects, stunts, and extras in this particular setting would go a long, long way for making the system feel more welcoming and show off how versatile it is, especially for people who have never played it. This definitely seems like a game that might be a little more geared towards self-starters, but it couldn't hurt.
What kind of session schedule would you be looking at, and what timezone?
@Cadi said in Hybrid cWoD/CoD Games (ie Changeling: The...Drost? Werewolf: The Forsacalypse?!):
In all honesty your Changeling ideas sound like nWoD Changeling, where it did get darker and less pretty tea-parties and where everyone is basically a PTSD victim who are in mortal fear of going back. Why decide on oWoD instead of nWoD?
Keep in mind I am biased. I love nWoD but loathe oWoD.
That's intentional, the theme would be a lot more Lost than Dreaming, but the setting would be a lot more Dreaming than Lost. Changelings as humans that are sort of...spiritually hybridized with (or arguably possessed by) actual Fae spirits, rather than humans abducted and warped by actual Fae spirits. The Dreaming is a reflection of our imagination run rampant, rather than the borderlands of a mythical realm, and Changelings are escaping reality in an attempt to reach Arcadia, rather than escaping Arcadia back into reality.
In this hypothetical game though, The Dreaming damages the real world, rather than redeems it. This escape is not a joyous celebration of the power of creativity or whatever, it's running away from your life. Changelings are damaged people already, who suddenly have the power to make their illness real or hide in it entirely, not the shell-shocked survivors of an alien kidnapping.
@Miss-Demeanor said in Hybrid cWoD/CoD Games (ie Changeling: The...Drost? Werewolf: The Forsacalypse?!):
I can't speak to the Changeling hybrid since I never played Dreaming... I do like the idea of meshing crunchy rulesets and mechanics from CoD with themes and settings from cWoD. I miss Pentex. I miss having a very prominent Big Bad that united people under a single cause. The Wyld, Wyrm, Weaver triad was interesting, but not nearly so much as the more visceral Good vs Evil struggle of Werewolves vs Pentex. The fact that Pentex was the Umbrella Corp. of its day made it all the better. It was EVERYWHERE, the Taint permeated almost everything to some degree. You had a tangible enemy to struggle against. Whether you won or lost, there was something that needed to be done!
Pentex was a little too Captain Planet Villain most of the time for my taste, but when they played it subtle it was awesome. I actually do miss the Triad a whole lot...not so much the whole "all-encompassing cosmic war" aspect, but a Forsaken game where they had cultists or something would be really cool. I've seen a conversion for the Wyrm on the Onyx Path forums that was bad-ass.
What would people think about a game that used the new systems and themes from Chronicles of Darkness but merged certain setting elements from the Classic WoD? What kind of "hybrid" settings and themes do you think would work, really work, or really really not work?
To get the ball rolling, I really like the tight personal focus of CoD games but at the same time some of the cuts they made seem a little ham-fisted to me. This was a fever that started with Werewolf -- for a while I was batting around the idea of a Forsaken game that incorporated the 14-ish Tribes from Apocalypse (revised to broaden, enrich or outright avoid some of the more embarrassing stereotypes) and restructured the 5 Tribes from Forsaken 2.0 and their sacred prey into something more like Lodges, which they feel like anyway to me. This just sounds like a richer game to me, with more culture, options and playstyles, buuuuut maybe I'm insane?
The other idea I've been kind of liking is a hybrid Dreaming-Lost game; Dreaming with a much bigger dollop of horror and adversity -- the Chrysalis basically ruins your life, rather than leading to endless pretty princess tea parties...and while the Dreaming is a beautiful, desperate escape from reality it can also be as dangerous and as terrifying as the Hedge, maybe even moreso because it's everywhere. The Tuatha de Danaan are returning from Arcadia and hunt other fae for sport, like the True Fae from Lost.
There are ideas in Dreaming that just seem so absurd, and they play them straight instead of taking advantage of that absurdity -- one of the old sourcebooks states that when the Sidhe came back they essentially possessed human bodies and "swapped" the human souls into Arcadia, and then made it sound like this is a delightful and pleasant exchange rather than the horrifying shitshow it would really be. Why not play this up instead? It mentions some freeholds in the Dreaming overlay condemned buildings but never really explores this idea to its full creepy potential. What happens when the Baron, surrounded by his Court, goes to take his seat at the high table during the Feast of Beltane and falls through a rotted floor, gutting himself on some exposed rebar? Also he was supposed to be at his mundane son's soccer practice but decided to go play magical dress-up pretendy time instead so his wife leaves him while he's in the hospital, SHIT LIKE THAT YAKNOW
I could go on and on but I would like input and see other "hybrid" ideas, if this is something that seems interesting to you guys.
@surreality said in Good TV:
Not every superheroine just marches in, sword and shield, and completely out bad-asses the boys the movie's named after.
That's not at all my issue with it, and isn't my expectation.
All the "GRRRRLPOWER" dialogue is just so campy that it comes off pretty disingenuous.
Just use the power of your
And you too can slowly lose control of your body and mind! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Seriously that blog gets so fucking dark.
There's a point where he writes as Ogougi and mentions how her "host" has been seeing these dark shadow entities that have been triggering spikes of extreme fear and anxiety to prevent him from writing about them. Like, they're just there in the corner of his vision, ALL THE TIME. And Ogougi, despite being this magical pony tulpa being, is essentially not only powerless against them but actually...kind of apathetic about them? It's one of the saddest, creepiest things I have ever read.
@Misadventure said in The 100: The Mush:
@Wizz said in The 100: The Mush:
@Misadventure
...yeah man, no one is saying that.@ThatGuyThere said in The 100: The Mush:
@Zyrus said in The 100: The Mush:
** I do apologize that was what it was taken as, just saying that wasn't my intention.**
@Surreality explained it better then I will. I will just comment that this is the type of non-pology that is my opinion is worse then saying nothing.
If you really want to apology do so with out qualifier. That is an apology, the above is deflection in an apology skin suit. It might play well in the media as we see celebs and corporations do it all the time but no one is fooled.That is what I replied to.
It is the only thing I was attempting to address.
@Misadventure said in The 100: The Mush:
To give you my personal perspective, I think you should not apologize for something you
don'tintend to do again. If I have a turn of phrase that encompasses what I mean in a reasonable way, I'm okay with it. I won't necessarily be changing it in general, though I might in a particular circumstance. I might still express regret that it didn't convey the message to someone.
Emphasis and strike mine. You are talking about a completely different thing that no one is actually arguing with you about.
As I said, I'm not addressing the specific person's actions, which provide context and some chance of sussing out actual motivations or attitudes.
TL;DR
"I'm sorry X was taken that way" does not equal insincere all by itself.
...yeah man, no one is saying that.
I don't mean offense, but ironically you're the one getting hung up on a sentence, rather than looking at the context of the situation. You're getting fixated on the idea that one misplaced word means everyone will read you as insincere in a completely different setting and it genuinely bothers you that you imagine this might be the case, but c'mon man, context. Most reasonable people will examine the events around the flubbed sentence with you and let you make your case, and then everyone moves on (eventually). That's not what happened here.
Tek outed Zyrus on objectively taboo behavior, behavior that major consensus states he definitely shouldn't continue. Rather than give a rational excuse, he was just trying to deflect the attention away from his own actions and cast doubt on Tek's perception of events. Luckily, this shit is so blatant that it's clearly just a desperation move on his part, but that doesn't mean that more insidious examples of this tactic don't exist and that is what everyone is getting upset about, not just that he phrased his apology in a way that can be misinterpreted. Nobody is arguing that point.
@Misadventure
Trying to explain your intentions can be part of a sincere apology. But if that's all there is to it, it's not an apology.
I started reading about "tulpamancy" after this thread and stumbled across this blog, where a dude goes from skeptical but excited about them to...trying to let his imaginary magical pony replace him completely as the dominant personality in his body, in the space of like two months.
@tek said in Tulpas or Roleplaying?:
What is a MU* baby?
The fictional spawn of two PCs. I don't know how common taking it to that extreme actually is but I've run into it a few times on different games.
I think MU* babies are a much better analogue for tulpas in our community, actually. The way that the people who invent them tend to obsess over them (making Wiki shrines, talking about them like real people on OOC channels, celebrating "birthdays") gives them a sort of "life" in a more literal way than people generally mean when they say their character's "muse" is talking.
Ugh, funny note, even bringing MU* babies up makes me feel sick to my stomach, which is I think a little like what most people mean when they say they're hit by the Uncanny Valley. Something just pings my "Creepy Shit" radar hard about them. I got the same sensation when reading about the modern interpretation of tulpas and tulpamancers; I'd agree that this really feels like an unhealthy practice that verges on encouraging mental illness, but that's just my opinion.
@Ghost said in Tulpas or Roleplaying?:
Was just talking with @surreality about this and i said: The idea of someone OOCly berating me "How dare you treat <insert char name> like that! She has feelings, you know" makes my skin crawl.
The sheer number of people who MU that treat their characters as an extension of their OOC selves, one-upped a step further to be assumed sentient friends with feelings and human emotions, then inserted into fictitious settings with monsters, character death, and romance?
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WELCOME TO THE UNCANNY VALLEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY