@surreality Digging into my zen-brain, I like to think of it as this:
Yourself and KK have a disagreement. Sao and I had a disagreement.
There's a big difference between a disagreement and aggressive, predatory behavior, and when I look at actual predatory behavior, it makes my disagreement seem petty.
It puts things into perspective.
I like how @shangexile helped bring us all together and did something positive for @surreality
Thanks, bruh.
@shangexile agreed. Go away. Your stalkerish behavior is creepy and unwelcome, and the way you're just trying to get a rise out of @surreality is petty.
You should set higher standards for yourself.
@Three-Eyed-Crow Nah, that wasn't a vaglueblog at you. You said how you felt.
I could type for hours about who I think I am vs. who you think I am, but at the end of the day, I don't think either of us know each other truly well enough to make any accurate judgments.
But being someone who was sick of someone else's shit at the time, I can't really cry foul when someone got sick of my shit, can I?
Nah, no hate/beef here on my end. I recently make a move to give some people who are at odds with me a little extra space. Is what it is.
Gany doesn't meet gamer people though so she'll just have to come in by drone.
Then I'm totally going to tell people I'm @Ganymede and she can deal with the awkward pages later.
Honestly, I think some people seeing others as people and not some assumed persona-trope would do wonders.
I know the list of people that don't like me, or that I've had spats with, and truly believe that the inability to sit down across a table and hash shit out like normal people makes things difficult. I'd totally be down to do jello shots with people that I've had beefs with.
I'd love to better see their perspectives and get off the laptop and be around some of you as people.
Just not @Ganymede . I hope she rolls around in the wrong patch of dirt and ends up needing a 2 hour botfly extraction at someplace really shitty, like an Urgent Care in Hoboken, New Jersey.
I really do think we need to host a worldwide MSB meetup at a cheap hotel in front of a dirt field.
The amount of sex, violence, shade throwing, drinking, making new friends, and ending of existing friendships might either result in 2 years of awesome gaming or finally destroy the hobby.
@surreality said in RL Anger:
@Ghost I get the 'take one for the team and let shit die down' logic.
I am not, however, in the mood to do that shit today. I'm over quota on that for the week
Fair nuff. Do your thing. Polite environments tend to have people who masquerade as polite culture and sometimes people feel like they gotta cut the tall poppy.
I'm the last person to chastize you for this.
@Ganymede I hope you have an office related accident at work on a Friday before a 3 day weekend.
(Said jokingly, for the record. Dont know if you think I'm a douche or not, but you're ai'i'i'iight in my book)
Don't do that again while I'm drinking water, ya shite.
What's that, you pustulent cunt?
(Said for illustrative purposes.)
I hope you die of sheer happiness after all of your wishes in life are granted.
@surreality said in RL Anger:
@Ganymede Maybe you should direct your ire toward the person who came in and started slinging the shit, because that wasn't me. I have the same right to respond with an objection to being called a hypocrite as any given person on the forum does to being called a cunt, and I will not be chastised for doing so as if I'm in the wrong for doing it.
Gonna throw myself under the bus here.
Tread carefully. Consider myself a decent example as to what happens on these forums when you reply with vitriol towards someone whose opinion you don't value, or someone you don't respect. It very quickly becomes about a dozen or other things until the original point of the spat is lost. Justified or not.
Some people are here to be constructive, others for entertainment, and others to be...I don't know what the right word is for it, but somewhere between contrarian and to maintain some assumed persona.
The people who don't want to understand with the potential end result of understanding you better or in a positive light won't give you much quarter. So you may be better off just telling people that you don't appreciate their tone, and if they continue to be rude, others will jump in and cold cock them with a beat stick on your behalf.
Maybe you ought to re-think hopping onto a World of Darkness game
Don't do that again while I'm drinking water, ya shite.
BRB finding paper towels.
@Ghost Obviously it is up to each person whether they feel bad about it or not. No one can /make/ someone feel something.
But, I can say that in my philosophical approach to life, that I think someone who doesn't feel remorse or guilt about doing something bad is a bad person. I.e. if you do something immoral and you don't feel remorse, you are an immoral person. Or a sociopath.
I totally respect that. I'm kind of in the same ballpark mentality-wise, though differing opinions on morality really, really make it hard to balance sometimes. Which is why I think there is so much strife going on socially these days. Aside from a very specific list of things being considered pretty much immoral across the board (yet even cannibalism is forgiven in a survival context so long as the cannibalize isn't murdered to make it possible), there are a number of terms/actions where the goal post keeps moving.
Does rude mean the same as wrong? Is rude strong enough to be considered immoral? What if it's rude for a good cause? Who determines if the cause is justified? What is forgivable to one person but not the next? (rhetorical questions)
There's a lot of subjectivity at play, which makes it difficult.
I would say, as someone believing in a universal morality, that telling someone to kill themselves is not a moral action
I agree 100%. I cant think of any actual moral (extreme circumstances withstanding, such as having an alien xenomorph about to punch through your sternum) situation where it's okay to tell someone to kill themselves. Geez, especially after that girl was found guilty of manslaughter, was it? No. I do not recommend.
I was just saying that it's really up to the person who says it as to whether or not they feel sorry for it. How they take the personal result for saying something like that to another human being is their cross to bear. Like: a person telling someone who abused them to kill themselves, they might not feel one bit remorseful about saying it, whole others, 2 weeks later, might think "I was angry...but shouldn't have said that.".
It's all part of the subjective life experience catalogue.
I think every human being has a list of things they've said to others that they wish they could take back, and a list of things they feel perfectly justified having said. In the end, it's all about knowing yourself and training yourself to not say things that you don't mean.
@Misadventure said in RL Anger:
It should be called out for what it is.
The right thing to do, so we know who to purge when the revolution comes?
The MSB Civil War will be about as accurate, deadly, effective, and subjective as an all-out marksmanship fight between a legion of Stormtroopers and a battalion of soldiers working for C.O.B.R.A.
750,000,000 rounds fired. Zero deaths
If this stuff were solely about the topic at hand, then so many personal attacks wouldn't be taking place. It's often been said here to attack the idea, not the person, but there's plenty of attack the person under the guise of attacking the idea.
It should be called out for what it is.
Re: the whole 'kill yourself' thing - that's a fucked up thing to say to anyone; I don't advise anyone else to do it, but I can say it whenever I like and anyone that wants to be offended can feel free to be offended. It's literally no skin off my nose & I've never lost a friend over something I've said to someone I already didn't like
In the interest of being constructive about what Pandora appears to be saying and seeking clarification without leading forward with snide insinuations that are counterproductive...
It appears that what Pandora might be trying to point out (which, if we truly seek clarification, we will ask Pandora to clarify) is that it's up to the individual to determine their own level of self-sanitization on behalf of the local population. Pandora isn't suggesting anyone say such things, nor promoting people saying such things, nor even SUPPORTING people saying such things, but if Pandora felt so inclined to say such a thing to someone, it's really up to the person who says it to determine whether or not they should feel bad about it.
When people start to cherry pick who/when it is acceptable to use such words/statements towards people, the dialogue just becomes a blowhardy forum as to whether or not it was warranted. Some might applaud someone for telling Donald Trump or Pol Pot to kill themselves and deliver a belatedly joyous round of high fives, but then scold the same people for doing it to random, rude people on the internet. Whether or not one feels this is acceptable isnt the point, the point is that the cherry picking happens from time to time.
Then again, I'm also getting the sense that Pandora isn't willing to be browbeat about what they choose to or to not say by popular vote in lieu of remaining true to themselves and the precedent that sanitizing to appease people on an internet forum might set.
All in all, if Pandora intends to clarify, I'll read it, but we should refrain from attributing assumptions without asking constructive, qualifying questions.
Fun fact. Sean Courturier was born in Arizona, which means the runoff energy of my presence in this city is 2% responsible for him being great.
Good to see you're still in one piece.
I'm not saying I'd approach it with the same time and energy as a second job, but I'm going to check this out and if I can throw my full sh/ksh scripting knowledge in, I'm gonna get some shit done.
I wish I could code in shell or kornshell.
Not happening, but I wish that I could.
Clarification: I can script just fine in sh/ksh. Its just not supported on codebases for MU
