And I assume the expectation is that your partner will be there for you the next time you need someone to treat you wit patience and some indifference? Because they are your partner?
in no way is this relevant to the relationship between a roleplay game staffer and a prospective player.
Freedom of speech guarantees that you can say what you want (threats not included) and the government will not throw you in jail or take all your property for it.
It does not protect you from any other consequences that might come of you saying dumb shit. That's where people get confused.
@bear_necessities it really depends on the game and the NPC. Maybe you see an opportunity to seduce a player char and bring a certain child/romance/tension into the story. Maybe you are playing an NPC in order to make the game world more immersive and reinforce an element of theme and that character would have the sex with someone for some reason.
The pearl clutching EGAD an NPC had teh SEX response I think is really a 'this person is not using this NPC for player enjoyment, but for their own" response, which really just means that person probably needs a course correction or not to play NPCs. As long as an NPC action is making story or character development or raw fun for player(s) with their RP time, I got nothing but confetti for them.
ETA I am not saying I think playing an NPC should be an unfun chore 100% of the time. Staffers get to have fun, too. It just needs to be character relevant fun and not 'hey this person has a hot PB i want to see whether they use the word x or x in ts'.
This isn't MY dog, but considering I helped raise her and visit her every other day, I feel somewhat proprietary. Jinx, my bestie's shiba inu:
@krmbm said in Difference between an NPC and a Staff PC?:
@Sunny said in Difference between an NPC and a Staff PC?:
The? No. It shows that it is A way to get story.
That's your opinion as a person that thinks inter-personal RP via staff NPCs is fine.
Mine (as someone who does not think it's fine) is that I just saw Sue get a cool new weapon because she went 18-holes with StafferBob, and I did not get anything because I don't enjoy that particular flavor of RP and didn't jump on StafferBob's putter.
I may be completely wrong and pettily jealous, but now I'm completely wrong and jealous over here, on a game where I'm more comfortable with how staff uses their NPCs.
I dunno, it makes me a little uneasy to paint those who are ok with NPCs having interpersonal relationships as likewise being ok with handing out loot to players for having TS with them.
Also can speak from experience, a lot of people assume this kind of thing is happening when it isn't. A lot of people assume if NPCs flirt/spend time with PCs they are fucking them, and if they are fucking them, a lot of people assume it was not FTB and make noise about how unfair it is that the NPC was using their time that way whether they were or not.
IDK. play on the game that has the things you are comfortable with, 100%. I think at the end of the day every staff team's goal is for their players to have fun.
@Sunny said in Difference between an NPC and a Staff PC?:
The problems with sex and romance that are being used to object to sex and romance in plotlines are not actually problems with sex or romance. They are problems with unethical staffers behaving unethically. That sex is the topic is irrelevant.
It's fine to prefer that sex and romance elements (or mini-golf) not appear in plots. However, it IS a preference, not an absolute, and presenting it like people using sex and romance in their plots are unethical or bad for using them? Nah.
Agree!
The weirdo stalker is gross. However, I also found @surreality's inability to just stop being a dick a little gross. Sorry not sorry.
@bear_necessities said in Difference between an NPC and a Staff PC?:
It's your responsibility as a staff to engage with all players regardless of how fun they are
Sure. You def can't ignore players who aren't fun for you (unless the reason they aren't fun is they are rude or disruptive or don't buy in and make you miserable, etc). But it is absolutely not your responsibility to engage with all players equally.
i have often wondered this. and yeah i think it's just. cold new england woods and foggy coasts and stuff. I just wondered this more when these small towns in Maine (and Maine is p much only small towns) have like fifteen strip clubs and opera houses and seventeen gang factions. If you want big city vibes, go for a place an actual big city is, or makes sense.
people will log into a new game claiming to be staff elsewhere to warn you about bad actors. people will always think people are some evil MU BOGEYMAN.
IDK. the way you get out of it is two fold. 1. Don't be so reprehensible to people that you are considered a danger to fake online society, and 2. try not to give a fuck
I've had someone unironically use the phrase 'your reputation damns you' about me before. It was hilarious.
Observations:
Evennia is great. I love what Tehom has done with Arx on it - I love it so much. It's not plug and play, but neither is any other mush code, really. I went into staffing on Firan with no idea of tinyMUX code, and I had to learn it in order to build/GM. It was wretched. Everything is complicated and mystifying before you learn it. I don't think there's anything wrong with the statement "Developing with Evennia requires you to know/learn Python". I don't think it will ever satisfy the "I want to make another modern WoD mush by just installing a codebase and booting up the server" need, but that need is already met by generous community coders.
You can't market a product to everyone, unless it is clean air.
Also, Griatch remains the most unruffled and civil dude basically ever. Kudos.
@Arkandel said in How to Escape the OOC Game:
On the other hand there are those of us here who simply attract creepers through no fault of their own. Usually players of a female persuasion. I could see the case being made that they'd want the chance to just play somewhere in peace and anonymity could provide them the chance to do so.
sure. but there ARE other ways to dissuade creepers. I mean, it's all imperfect; this sucks.
Also: Anyone who's fucked up big time but wants a fresh start should be entitled to one. Hey, there's nothing wrong with that either.
I AGREE. I have long said if someone with a horrible rep or a ban or whatever disguises themselves and ACTUALLY manages to change their behavior so much that no one suspects who they are and what they did? Great! That's exactly what was wanted all along. Don't do the things that make people super uncomfortable, don't be a miserable asshole, no one will know! EVERYONE WINS.
@Scorn oh my gosh, congratulations on being cancer free! i'm so glad you found the desire to fight, and won that battle.
@Carex said in The Dark Side of online Role-Playing:
@mietze said in The Dark Side of online Role-Playing:
I am going to be making a locked thread in the hogpit (for now) to move the personal attack posts
Feel free to just delete them. I was just trying to explain why I didn't just agree with what, on its surface, seems like a perfectly innocuous post.
I was trying to illustrate that maybe agreeing without putting any deeper thought into it was unwise.
Kinda like this: https://youtu.be/fYOA8gXpios
honestly how dare you drag Some More News into this. Those vids are mostly full of thoughtful and researched content, and failing that - funny. You are 0 for 3, sport.
since people are upvoting i'll double post instead of edit to add: but that works because it's a fantasy game. I'm not saying all games should be that way. We aren't invalidating anyone's real life experiences in Arx, any more than we are recreating or exploiting them, BECAUSE it's a fantasy.
@Auspice i don't think it came across like that at all. shrug
ok the porkbun one is cute, though
@WildBaboons Dude, you should REALLY remove the assets lifted straight from another game before you start advertising this. Make it your priority.
@derp said in Sensitivity in gaming:
especially in the context where people were saying 'it is not my responsibility to let you know what my triggers are, it is your job to just deal with them'.
PEOPLE. What people? Where did they say this? Please quote or provide data point.
