@arkandel said in Make MSB great again!:
"The gloves are off" isn't the same as "carte blanche to be a raging asshole",
Raging bitches are acceptable though, yes?
Or is MSB sexist.
@arkandel said in Make MSB great again!:
"The gloves are off" isn't the same as "carte blanche to be a raging asshole",
Raging bitches are acceptable though, yes?
Or is MSB sexist.
This is Mildy Constructive, so all I'm going to say is, uh.
.....Didn't somebody accuse @paris of stalking and harassing when the F&L shitfest was going on? Or was that one of the other F&L staffers. If it was one of the others, I'm pretty sure it was somebody who @paris is attached to at the hip and not just 'random other staffer'.
ETA : It was @botulism. And @paris was involved in the discussion. It happens somewhere around here. http://musoapbox.net/topic/68/random-bitching/14693
I'd take @Paris's comments above about how horrible MSB is, with a grain of salt. Or a bucket of it.
His(her? Fuck if I know. Don't care. Its.) problem seems to stem from "my friend got involved in a slapfight that went both ways, and now I hate everybody related to MSB!"
For the record, I literally have no fucking clue who @Cupcake is.
@insomnia said in General Video Game Thread:
ALSO: The PC version clocks in at 100 Gigs... so there's that.
ETA : I despise, fucking despise, the notion of pay-to-play games that then also have loot boxes or something of the sort as a thing.
F2P with in-game purchases, or sell me a fucking video game. DLC is tolerable when it's real content that adds 10+ hours of gameplay or something. But stuff like loot boxes in a game I already paid for will flat out turn me off from a company forever more. You don't get to be a greedy fuck and double dip in my pocket.
On hero games, I think 1 or 2 is the most you should get.
Especially on hero games.
Anything more than that, and you get into characters not being available for new players, because somebody else has them and does 1 scene every 2 weeks with them.
I'd rather somebody do 2 scenes a week on one character than 1 scene a week on 2 characters.
If I play Psylocke, Ms. Marvel, and Sif, yeah those are all pretty different in focus and they're even all in different 'spheres', none of them are even 'leadership' types, but goddamn I as 1 player just put a huge fucking dent in the available female FCs.
People froth at the mouth for alts, it's crazy.
@ZombieGenesis opened his DC game with a 1 char limit, and didn't even make it one week from opening before he got persuaded/harassed/browbeat into opening alts, if I recall correctly.
@ganymede said in FCs on Comic MUs:
Here's a solution: how about only allowing one PC for every player? No alts. You're either playing on the game or you are not.
But, but, Gany...then your +Who list looks small.
Why haven't @ghost and @The-Tree-of-Woe delivered our X-Men only MU yet?
@apos said in FCs on Comic MUs:
That sounds basic but very few people want to deal with behavioral problems, and the ones that DO want to deal with it are very rarely the people that should be.
I'd honestly expand this to "very few people want to deal with problems that involve other people in any fashion whatsoever". And I believe this is one of the main problems in the hobby. The irony is not lost on me, either. But, for all the loud bitching I do around here, I have the self-awareness to realize that on-game, I should not be the person dealing with player-problems. At least not without having my +job responses/etc vetted by other staff first. Not to "brag", but a lot of fucking people lack that self-awareness.
This can also be expanded to the fact that generally, the people with the time & interest to run a MU are rarely the sort of people who should be. There are exceptions here. But good, decent staff like @Apos are the minority, by far. People like @Arkandel or whoever you want to hold up as a 'reasonable, good RPer and person' don't have the time to run a MU. Most of the time, the people running a MU are doing it for flawed reasons. They want to be popular. It's a replacement for a social life. They want to 'make friends' and then those friends become the 'favored players'. Or just simple shit like they want a GOMO.
The mentality around 'competing over FCs' is definitely probably a problem, but, let's be serious here. @Apos, I don't know how familiar you are with comic games, anime games, etc.
People camp characters like a mother fucker. If the rule is "one log posted a month", there are dozens of people who will take an alt, and regularly go 27 days with that alt offline, then log on, get in their 1 log, and disappear for another 25 days. And they're not breaking a rule....technically?
I for sure agree that the same character/player shouldn't be allowed to 'vote' (or whatever) for somebody else over and over. Especially depending on the tiers of what we're talking about. If a game has 100+ characters logged in, and Batman explicitly plays with even the same FIVE people over and over for 6 months straight, that's not okay. Nevermind how common it is for people to play with 1 or 2 people over and over.
Staff on these games are generally the core of the problem, because they do all this shit themselves, and between them and their friends each having 5 fucking alt slots, they've covered half of the high profile characters. If your BFF is playing Emma Frost on your game and she only logs on every two weeks to play with you, there are very, very, very few human beings in the MU community who are going to pull that character from their friend or tell and enforce them being more active in public. I've staffed multiple comic games. The other people on staff are why I quit every time. They inevitably want absurd shit that wouldn't get approved for a player, or constantly skirt around activity rules and get a 'pass' because "holy shit wow, there'd be drama if we talked to another staffer about that".
Got a PS2 Emulator to work (I am not computer savvy, and prior attempts have failed), and let me tell you, it's like christmas.
I'm not sure I understood your post, exactly. Would you be allowing FC villains as Player Characters? Would people have to 'buy them' with XP? Would they not be allowed?
I was amused by the picture of people being ungrateful after being saved from killer aliens.
Good luck!
He's no Christian Bale, but Batfleck was perfectly fine with me. Infinitely better than I expected, going into BvS.
Cavill is weird to me. I don't think he's bad for the role....I just think I really, really, really fucking hate Superman as a character in a movie. He just...does not fit, to me. Something about Superman just seems ill-suited to a "realistic" representation, in my mind. He belongs in cartoons.
@wildbaboons said in POLL: Super Hero MU Gut Check:
Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but I'm getting the feeling that Tempest doesn't like OCs.
<insert gif of Kevin Hart beating a dead horse>
Hey, if we're playing M&M, I'll make a character with you guys!
If we're playing "Marvel & DC", how about you pick one of the 10,000 characters available to play?
Just my 2c, but if you want OC heroes, make an OC hero game. FC games should be FCs. Mixing them is asinine.
Honestly, the pure audacity required for a player to think whatever harebrained thing they whipped up in 30 minutes deserves the same attention/etc as a comic book character that's been written for 10, 20, 30, however many years and is known by 80% of the players on the game, and has been in cartoons and movies and whatever else is just...
Seriously? It's dumb. Pure and simple.
Very, very, very few people go to a comic game because "oh man I can't wait to see what OCs people have created!"
People who play OCs on comic games are basically taking advantage of people's kindness to throw a wrench of concentrated stupidity into the cogs. You're a burden on the rest of the game. Staff hates doing OC apps. Players tend to hate having to spend their time with OCs trying to join their teams.
"Oh man, I finally get to do a scene with <Insert Comic Character>! I can't wait to see what angle the player takes them in. ...Oh, jeez...this OC nobody cares about is coming too? Ugh."
If everybody is an OC, hey, I have no problem with OCs.
When you're mixing Spider-Man and Cyclops with 'pile of nonsense somebody whipped up one saturday afternoon', that's pretty weird.
ETA : Something no Jean-player has ever said --> "I sure wish this game had more teenage mutant OCs pining for attention."
OC players go into comic games with an entirely different mentality than the other players.
OC players almost infallibly tend to be seeking 'validation' through attention from FCs, whereas FC players tend to just want to tell stories with other FCs.
@ganymede And it's pretty rare for either of them to be played by players, in my experience.
I've never ever seen a Legion PC. I've staffed on 3 superhero MUs and played on 8 or 9 probably?
Magneto gets played, but..his power is generally 'pretty much understood' and the players allowed near him are generally more 'responsible', what with him being the X-Men antagonist (which means he often gets kept as a staff NPC). Yes, there are weirdos who'll try to break out all the crazy 'well with magnetism he can do WTFBBQOMG'.
Everybody has 'PIS' and super dramatic 'examples' of their power use, but they're generally not the norm.
I've never seen an Iceman player try to freeze the planet, though iirc, he's supposedly got the potential to be 'omg super OP Omega Level ICE AGE CAUSER!!!!"