Posts made by ThatGuyThere

@faraday said in Heroic Sacrifice:

Side note - Cooperative tabletop games work by making it all about the group rather than the individual. The group wins or loses together.

Another thing to note is that the group in these cases is most commonly a group of RL friends.
If I am playing coop game I am a lot more likely sacrifice personal accomplishment for the over all success when the other players are my friends, with a group of strangers in person or on line I am much less likely to sacrifice personal gain even if it leads to the loss of the over all game.

While I like the idea of xp timers I really hate justifications, because to be they are pointless busy work.
Hell I remember on HM getting a page from a staffer saying how much they liked reading my justifications because they showed a lot of thought. I didn't have the heart to hell them I couldn't remember what I typed because it was just whatever popped into my head at the time I was sending the spend though.

@arkandel said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

@ashen-shugar said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

Don't know if it may help, but maybe an option that requires a poster wait a full hour before posting in the same thread after their last post?

I would curse the moderator who did that to me.

I get where you're coming from, but I think this would penalize the whole for the actions of very few. Not every MSB poster is aggressive to a fault.

It also wouldn't really solve anything unless the ability to edit was also removed. Since you can edit to include more information my guess would be the result would be getting a post at the start with continual updates.

@arkandel said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

Consider it an experiment - what do we have to lose by giving it a shot?

Likely my participation, no offense but i have seen the game played too many time to think it will be different. A section with stricter rules fine, the whole board; engh... It becomes like dating if I know how the script is gonna play out why bother wasting the time going through it.

@faraday said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

If posters are misbehaving that's exactly the sort of thing more moderation would be intended to solve.

While I agree in theory, Mod on a board like staff on a game can get overwhelmed pretty easily. Nor are they on 24/7 on most boards the mods do try to keep to the intent of the rules but they can also get drowned out.

One thing I would include is the ability for people with the proper skills/powers to spoof a class they are not. After all that is what a con man or professional spy does in a lot of stories, heck even Sherlock Holmes would disguise himself as a beggar to ferret out information in places where he would stick out.
This would also have the added benefit of giving tangible benefits to the subterfuge skill while side stepping the usual social skills arguments.

@faraday said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

Now I can sympathize with @ThatGuyThere's concern that moderation will go overboard and stifle any sort of criticism, but that's not what I want either. You can't debate if you can't criticize ideas.

Honestly from what I have seen actual moderation is less the issue and more how posters start to behave, it usually becomes you said something negative about something or disagreed with someone I liked so now I attack your post for being overly negative and I have seen that sort of thing be every much a dogpile as anything that has happened on here or Wora. That becomes my issue.
I have seen the rule of "Be polite." Which I think everyone thinks is a fine rule by itself become a cudgel that was used to attack any post that wasn't glowing agreement. If it was simply a matter of trusting moderation I would have a lot less issue.

@faraday said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

ETA, and not directed at bored particularly... I'm just kind of irritated that every time this discussion comes up, "mudslinging should be kept in the hog pit, if there even is one" is being misconstrued as "happy rainbow unicorn land where nobody says anything negative ever". Literally nobody is suggesting the latter.

Maybe because on literally every other board I have been on regardless of topic from TV shows to sports to games when there is a rule about how negative thoughts are expressed, that rule gets used to attack any negative thought put up regardless of how it is expressed. So until I see that work I will not believe it is possible. To paraphrase Harry Truman, I might not be from Missouri but if you want me to believe that you will have to show me.

@auspice said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

You know this happens. You can't deny that you've seen it.

I do know this happens and have never denied it, I just don't see it as a bad thing. You spins the wheel you takes your changes is my basic philosophy in this regard.
Hell there is a reason I follow the old Wora maxim of not mentioning games I like when they aren't being talked about here.

@roz said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

@thatguythere said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

@auspice said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

Except I think we can all agree that the negative regularly becomes overwhelmingly vitriolic and often dogpiles.

Then that would be an argument for locking the threads to only the ads and legit q+a, nothing will ever convince me that allowing positive without negative as well is anything else but an attempt to allow others to blow smoke up my ass which is the exact reason I have have the entire ad section on ignore for months.

I'm not sure why you're arguing about this. Didn't @Auspice bring up ad threads specifically to say "It might be time for us to just lock the ad threads to just their ads and let people discuss them elsewhere and we can leave links to the other threads"? She's already agreed to a thing that fulfills your wants.

I realize I am in agreement with Auspice and didn't think I was arguing with her just stating my opinion on the matter being discussed. the quote were included to give my remarks context.

The one area where we probably disagree is seeing the negative overwhelming the positive as an inherently bad thing.

@auspice said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

Except I think we can all agree that the negative regularly becomes overwhelmingly vitriolic and often dogpiles.

Then that would be an argument for locking the threads to only the ads and legit q+a, nothing will ever convince me that allowing positive without negative as well is anything else but an attempt to allow others to blow smoke up my ass which is the exact reason I have have the entire ad section on ignore for months.

@auspice said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

So this was suggested once before and the utter lashback ("How dare we not be able to say negative things about a game!") was enormous.

I was part of this I am a firm believer that if positive things are allowed to be said negative things should be as well. I have mush less of an issue with ad threads being locked to just the add or just q+a things but if positive opinions are allowed then negative ones should be as well.
Of the examples Skew used: "Sorry, how do I connect?" "Please link website" "I just started playing here, if anyone else wants to join

I find the first two fine foe a g+a perspective the last likely better suited for a constructive or shot in the dark or whatever looking for folks section is called.

@seraphim73 said in Wheel of Time mechanics:

@ganymede Oh yeah, I've run scenes with 10-12 PCs and 15-20 NPCs (in FS3 2)--they took 5ish hours, but yeah. I just wanted a one-to-one comparison and I don't think anyone would be crazy enough to run 12 PCs and 20 NPCs in Saga/WoD (yes, I'm sure there are those who have done it).

Back in the mid-90s there I was in a big werewolf combat scene, I rolled fairly high on init and took my action didn't spend any rage that round so was done. After waiting a bit I went down to the dining hall to have dinner (I pages the scene runner my stamina in case a soak roll was needed from me, I am not a monster.), ate dinner talked to some friends for a bit and went back to my room it still hadn't gotten to the end of the round, and that was a WoD combat with 8 pcs and I think a dozen NPCs.

Bruno Sammartino, 82.

@ashen-shugar said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

@thatguythere said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

@ashen-shugar
In your post you seem to imply that "catty, cliquish, and thrive on negativity" doesn't go along with holding a professional job. If you think that is the case you really need to work in more offices or be very grateful for the ones you have worked in.

Sure it does. But most highly professional jobs don't have this as HR tend to go down on them like a ton of bricks.

LoL HR tends to be the source of the Catty and negativity.

@ashen-shugar
In your post you seem to imply that "catty, cliquish, and thrive on negativity" doesn't go along with holding a professional job. If you think that is the case you really need to work in more offices or be very grateful for the ones you have worked in.

@arkandel said in Hello MSBites! Grade your administrators.:

What other futuristic technologies will you people ask for, flying cars? We don't live in the future, getouttahere.

Do flying cars even count as the future any more? Hell they have been promised to us since the fifties by the time we will get them they will already be retro.

@arkandel
My money is on the ever popular real author dies and the series gets finished by someone else from his notes.

@thatonedude
The published Game is D20 mechanics of the 3.5 era, not sure how thematically close that is since I have not read the books but that would seem to conflict with both the desire to avoid "filler" skills and keeping things simple with were @Arkandel's first two stated goals.

@seraphim73 said in Interest Check: Ancient Greek RP:

Of course, the player of Zeus would end up TSing half the MU*...

At least in this case it would be in character and theme for it to happen.