Dibs on "Vampiledriver", the newest entry in the Werewolf Wrestling Federation.

https://www.blindsparrowinteractive.com/ready-to-roll/

Ready To Roll

A blind and low vision accessible RPG dice manager

So cool.

@darc said in The best I've ever...:

Apparently consequences that include death are what are required for good code these days. Who knew?

Dead Man's Forks.

@Jeshin said:

As to welcome too and feel free, that is the blunt truth.

No, no it's not. Connotation is not denotation. It's not whether or not I like it, it's how you present yourself to your readers.

I'm sorry I didn't pursue your game or games that you feel should be on the site but we do have MUDs, MUSHes, and MOOs in our connections page and our sub-forums.

I don't care one bit who you pursue, but I do care about how you approach your target audience.

Now that you admit to smoke-and-mirrors, I'm starting to get over caring how you look while you do it.

We aren't lying. We aren't creating double standards.

You are. You have. Oh you've also told the truth and have been very straightforward, but you've also been conceited and self-aggrandizing against your own stated interests:

I hope that Optional Realities can help bridge the gap between all of our games and create a home for our genre of text-based RPGs.

Do you think you're helping bridge the gap?

Do you care if people here don't?

Honesty is about more than lying. It's also about being true to who you are and what you claim. People will read it and appreciate it, even if they disagree with you about it.

I personally think you're insane to consider here a source of anything more than some ideas and some of the worst-case scenario of those ideas. There are good ideas in here, and I won't say whether or not mine are (I don't know), but I will say that you're getting the idea what Soapbox—not Mushing, but our corner of it—is about.

I really do believe that you care about your readership, Jesh, but I'm not the only one here to say you guys come off as aloof and cold about thoughts concerning your project. The count is, what, six? If six people on your own site said you seemed to be acting unreasonable about someone, it would probably register more clearly to you.

Oh, and I think both of you should read this article: http://theconversation.com/no-youre-not-entitled-to-your-opinion-9978

I mean this with sincere effort to help, if only to get the use of "opinion" as a statement in defensive argument out of everyone's vocabulary.

@Arkandel said in What do you eat?:

Food.

What do you guys think about Impossible Foods and manufactured meat in general?

I am deeply wary of Soylent because it’s an unvetted replacement for food.

For things that you replace other parts of food with? As long as it’s healthy, I’m fine with it. I even embrace our manufactured-foods cyberpunk future/present.

@derp said in Helpful Spellcasting Flowchart:

@surreality said in Helpful Spellcasting Flowchart:

The whole attitude was dismissive and condescending from the jump. 'Oh, sigh, that is a pile of garbage.' It's certainly not constructive, but the untouchables are freely permitted that, I suppose.

This.

And dragging the conversation down in how someone said something is constructive, you two?

I agree with you a great deal of the time, but I think it's time people stop using their personal definition of "constructive" as a way to dismiss others.

Yes, Cobalt was being catty. She also had some damn good points.

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I find it the most interesting that the chart is so polarizing. I've heard that it was created to be condescending of Mage. I've heard that it was made to be a useful tool. @Alzie is known to be very snarky in his own right so that may have tainted some people's reactions from the get-go.

I find nMage 1e's spellcasting to be confusing as fuck, and this chart painful to even consider.

But I've also coded similar systems all throughout WoD and people almost never get so touchy about them as they do with this.

I honestly don't know what's wrong with you people.

You people.

(Not me, clearly.)

@Miss-Demeanor said:

VIRTUAL ADEPTS!

Trinary decker rigs, only 10 lbs super lightweight. Cyberpunk forever! (We are sticking with the original 1998 vision of the future, right?)

Interesting note: Oleo is probably our first widely used manufactured food. Enjoy your whipped fat!

@taika said in #WIDWW pt 2 - ST, Player, or staff?:

Maybe somewhere along the way we lost that giddiness of chugging mountain dew, eating cheetos, and casting fireballs at the darkness?

Yes, it was called Vampire, 1st Edition: The 90s BDSM Goth RPG. Then Werewolf: The Fuckin' Metal RPG For People Who Are Fuckin' Metal. (Seriously, how did they get away with a lawsuit against Underworld when Anne Rice was sitting right there?)

Sometimes it's fun to subsume yourself into Too Serious for a while. This is my only explanation for Warhammer 40k which makes things so Grimdarque that it's camp, but you're never going to get Cheetos-eating silliness unless there's enough blood to make Monty Python and Gwar fans happy.

Angel had a Turned Into Puppets episode.

Every game can be silly within its theme. It's nice to get out of theme, but I don't think anything goes.

@Jaunt said:

@Thenomain - I find your assertion of what passes for reasonable conversation to be pretty limp.

Your assumptions, insults, and then wavering on engaging-not-really-engaging to be wishy-washy, and your general thrust of your conversation is far too appropriate for these boards. You didn't decide to rise above it; you've jumped in with both feet. For that alone, I don't see why I should engage you at the very level you hold in disdain.

I also don't believe that you have read what I've repeatedly been saying. I have answered the questions you're asking of me on more than one occasion; please give me a compelling reason to answer them again.

I'm not one to write anyone off after two posts, but if you really want to talk with me on a more reasonable level, make the effort please. @Jeshin did. My chat box is always open.

@Alzie said:

Mass Effect Andromeda

Shut up and take my money.

(I may need help, but I'm content with it.)

@bobotron said in #WIDWW pt 2 - ST, Player, or staff?:

@thenomain
Interview with the Vampire came out in 1976. And VtM listed The Vampire Chronicles right there in it's inspirational books thing, so... yeah.

So if Underworld said 'inspired by World of Darkness by White Wolf Games', they wouldn't've been sued? I have doubts. Deep, pulsating doubts.

@Jaunt said:

I'm not here in any sort of official capacity.

If you are OR staff, then you are here in official capacity. This is a concept that Mu* owners do not seem to understand, and yet it's never been not true. If you are talking about the thing you are in charge of, then you are being official. It works this way in the real world as well.

If you are not OR staff, then that's a different matter. I was under the impression that discussion with you was important to the formation of OR's policies and direction. This correction would make discussion much easier.

If you truly believed that the problem lay in miscommunication of ideas, then you wouldn't write offensive remarks on the thread in regards to Jeshin and Crayon and OR ... not unless your purpose was to offend, or inspire others to offend.

This is ... I don't know how you come to this conclusion, but it's presumptive. Quit it.

It's because I recognize the tactics that you've used throughout this thread.

Doubt it.

@Thenomain said:

You, yourself, are introducing ideas not mentioned earlier in this thread meaning that of three OR representatives, no two of them have given the same viewpoint of what OR is about.

You almost brought up a point labored many times earlier in the thread that I am happy to respond to, at least in part.

This is cherry-picking, by the way.

Please note from my earlier comment that I'm not against cherry-picking, just bad cherry-picking.

"I'm more stubborn, you go first."

"No, I'm more stubborn, you go first!"

As long as the record shows that I was the first one in this statement.

I liked Forgotten Realms, even Thay. I swear, even the babies and dogs of Thay had mustaches so they could twirl them with malevolent intent.

@coin said in Now for something different:

@surreality said in Now for something different:

Hermit powers, go. I choose GrumpyCat to be my avatar.

I think @ILuvGrumpyCat called dibs.

Nobody gets Grumpy Cat.

Everyone's unhappy.

Good.

@Jaunt said:

Our community is a specific genre of MUD that is over 20 years old. If the style of MUSH played by "most" people on this board is not represented on OR, then those people don't really need to worry about OR. It's that simple.

I was hoping this would come up.

Last I checked (two weeks back), OR represents itself as a site for discussion of all online text-based role-playing games.

All.

Not some.

Not even only those that fall inside the Three Rules of Jeshin's Best-Game Ideology.

All. Even Choose-Your-Own-Adventures.

OR spotlights those games with three different criteria. I think these criteria are bad ideas, but because of a lot of things it became clearer on the OR site the difference between the two.

This is an Advertisement Thread. It's not a "re-brand and design Optional Realities" thread. I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand.

This is Soapbox, a discussion forum, where discussion will happen. Engaging with that discussion makes you part of it. If you don't want to be part of that discussion, stop engaging. If you want the board admin to cut off discussion here, ask. I'm not sure why that's hard to understand, either.

I have no idea why both you and @crayon seem to have little sense of self-awareness, but that lack of self-awareness is a huge reason why I don't want OR to be successful. (Sorry, @Jeshin. I am very, very sorry to say that about what should be an awesome, inclusive project.)

@HelloRaptor said:

DA:I > DA:A > DA:O > DA2

Hah! I am vindicated! Even you admit DA2 was a shitty game!

I cannot hear your keyboard banging about relative comparisons not being the same as absolute statements. I only hear "look how crappy DA2 is".

I like my world much better now.

@HelloRaptor, re: kith examples.

Fairest are lovely, elegant.
Wizened are patchwork.
Ogres are rough.

Taking the examples as a whole, this pattern emerges. Sure, you don't have to use the descriptions exactly, because only a jerk would enforce that, but I think you are reading too much variance if you are saying that a Wizened can be perfectly formed and graceful and elegant.

I'm not going to anywhere near saying that an Ogre can't be pretty or a Beast can't be rough-hewn, as long as they are also fill in blank for their Seeming. I would want the Seeming to be dominant, but then I'm a jerk.

@WTFE

Dude, he's trolling now. Posting for his own amusement. Take a sip.