@Coin said:
I'm glad. It's really easy to get lost in the mire and muck of tearing down things you don't like when it's usually a lot healthier for everyone to let people enjoy things that don't really affect you, even if you don't like it.
@Coin said:
I'm glad. It's really easy to get lost in the mire and muck of tearing down things you don't like when it's usually a lot healthier for everyone to let people enjoy things that don't really affect you, even if you don't like it.
There was a thread here a couple of years back about the themes in World of Darkness games and how much any group in particular likes to dive into or approach darkness, and the general consensus at the time was that there should always be some element of light or hope, as opposed to unrelenting grim-grimdark.
That is my jam, especially lately.
...I would pay in upvotes to hear @EmmahSue sing that song, haha!
@theznar said in Interest check: Early Rebellion SW game:
I'm limiting FS(as in not having them) for the entirely selfish reason that I'm not interested in dealing with that aspect. It's just not something I'm looking to run.
Literally the only reason you need. It's not selfish, it's just not the kind of stories you want to tell.
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@Jennkryst said in Which canon property/setting would be good for a MU* ?:
Besides, this is just the home town base. All plots are ROADTRIPS, donchaknow?
What made that fun in the show is that it was two dudebros just broin' across the country, a formula that eventually got reeeeaaaally stale and so they gave up monster of the week for plots that have just increasingly gotten bigger and dumber and will continue until the heat death of the universe.
I dunno, I can see it being a good time with a small group as like a limited-run kinda game.
@wtfe said in Make MSB great again!:
There was maybe once a small window in which a site could have been built that was WORA for adults. That ship has long since sailed
If that genuinely turns out to be the consensus and the majority here feels like they are not obligated to ever change and grow up...LOL, good luck with that. It's been a trip MSB, but I'm too old for this shit.
@lithium said in Make MSB great again!:
@wizz It's appropriate for the hogpit. Not for anywhere else to be completely honest.
I don't disagree. I don't particularly like the hog pit but whatever, it's an outlet that people clearly want/need and I don't think that will change. I just think the bleed over has been absolutely ridiculous lately.
We can be supportive. We can be cruel. We can tear each other apart. We can build each other up. We can be a support group. We can be a rabid mob.
It comes and goes, if you are getting nothing out of participating on the forum, that's understandable. I take breaks every now and again myself.
It's not all bad however, we've had some great conversations and thrown around some awesome ideas before.
I absolutely agree, I am not trying to say this place is some sort of horrible shithole, I've been here since the beginning and really enjoyed my time both lurking and participating in the past.
As to whether or not this place is worth it? Depends on what you're here for, and what you want to get out of it.
That's the heart of it. I don't think my expectations are lining up, so this is a great conversation to finally have.
@Faceless What I miss is political subtlety. Don't get me wrong, I really loved the season so far because they get to play with all those toys Martin has given one by one - and I could really not care less about nitpicking of the "how fast do ravens fly??" variety - but it's more about wide brush strokes and big battles than backroom dealing, clever betrayals and outmaneuvering.
In that environment though some of ASoIaF's greatest characters like Varys or Littlefinger really don't have much to do. Even Tywin would have found it tricky to thrive without focusing on him more as a military than a political figure.
I think this is largely because the series is running into endgame territory. All the backroom stuff was a slow build to this, a bunch of assholes refusing to believe winter was coming, now winter's come. Probably my favorite shot of the finale was Jaime seeing a snowflake hit his glove and looking up to see the stormclouds over King's Landing, followed closely by the Wall coming down. It's so heavy and inevitable and final, and puts all the human struggle and pettiness into stark, ugly relief.
@thenomain said in Make MSB great again!:
@kanye-qwest said in Make MSB great again!:
how about just let people criticize or bring up negative experiences without letting it devolve into a bunch of RL character judgments and horrifying vitriol?
That is a very good question. Why can't we do this?
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I'm serious. Why is it that players and staff of any given game don't let this be an okay thing to do? Because...
@wizz said in Make MSB great again!:it very obviously wasn't happening on its own.
Because of that old chestnut:
It really isn't rocket science. Text is super easy to misinterpret, text makes people feel more comfortable letting themselves get crazy aggressive to a degree they never would in real life face to face, and having a referee or two and rules to follow generally helps more than it hurts.
Nobody is saying we're not capable of rational discourse, this is just a medium for it that is very difficult if not practically impossible without those things, for literally everyone. We're all only human.
"Dad! Please get me a butt mirror so I can see my buttcrack!"
Dude I am so excited to stand up and give a super embarrassing toast at this kid's wedding someday.
@ganymede
I can appreciate that, but it's also kind of the attitude I feel like a lot of us are trying to highlight, it's the hemming and hawing that frustrates us.
"Well, this post is against the rule we posted, but the OP hasn't told us they want it moved. Well, this poster just went off for six pages about the other poster's ancestry and upbringing and general moral fiber, but I know they had a bad week so..."
Why does it matter? You told us it's against the rule, so it's against the rule. Tell us what the rules are, and then enforce them. If we knowingly violate them, how are any of you then to blame?
@apu said in MSB Popularity Contest:
(How is reputation figured out, anyhow... number of upvotes?)
Yeah, as far as I can tell it's literally just that. It's also mmmmmmaybe little wonky since we implemented and then removed downvotes, by some tiny margin? But there's no real formula to it and the "divide by x for your OFFICIAL MSB SCORE" is just for funsies.
@krmbm said in Regarding administration on MSB:
When you start moderating the fun away, when you start trying to make the place full of constructive blah blah blah, it gets boring, people wander off, and it dies a heat death.
Yeah, that actually says something about this community that I don't like and it's what I was trying to say earlier, both that there's enough bullshit toxicity to make up such a large chunk of the activity here and that there are people who not only enjoy it but actively encourage it. I've wondered for a long time why I've had such a hard time rejoining MU*ing and there are a lot of other reasons, some personal, but that's definitely one of them.
I don't mean to derail this thread or drag it down into a dumb pointless shouting match with anybody and if I had the patience or fortitude for a thread on this topic that would honestly probably be a better place for this, but 'll tell you something and keep it brief, I don't find the toxicity WORA was known for "entertaining" and I have a pretty low opinion of people who do, and it frustrates and discourages me that big meltdowns like the UH X-Men drama tend to draw new faces who want to see more of the same.
As Gany, Ark and Auspice discuss the Rules of Engagement 2.0, I'd like to echo others here who have said similar, what you want to see not just as hard rules but a general tone and spirit for the site should be a major piece of the discussion.
@mietze said in RL things I love:
the see through pants are a nice touch.
Ehh, I hadn't had time to change out of my work clothes.
@Autumn said:
I have to come up with some reason why their life today is not just a series of wistful glances back toward when cool stuff was happening to them.
Considering our community's fetish for sleepy little towns jam-packed with the supernatural, playing a character who did assassinate the president of Bhurma with a fork or whatever and was just looking for a nice, quiet place to retire is pretty fun, especially if you make sure the "nice and quiet" doesn't happen, which means being proactive. Expecting someone else to take the reins and do anything but run coffee shop scenes is usually an exercise in frustration, in my experience.
@arkandel
I am not being at all facetious or hyperbolic when I say that was the incident that made me rethink my life up until that point and go apply to another industry.
But I hate to say, it really wasn't that unique. It was definitely the worst one I ever personally had to deal with, but working retail was fucking awful. People just act like animals, treat the properties they shop in with absolutely no respect, and treat you like you are not another human being.