Posts made by WTFE

@Jaunt said:

You're succeeding at turning off your very target market. You're failing at PR. You should move forward by learning small things like "telling a discussion board you're not interested in discussion is a Bad Idea.

Please, quote me where they said that they weren't interested in discussion.

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OK, @Jeshin is Used Car Salesman-in-Chief. @crayon is Yappy the Wonder Pooch. You are just plain old Dick Nixon with your deranged "deny everything" approach.

I'm not so certain that you are the greatest spoke person for "good PR", but then again, I'm not here for PR. If I were, I wouldn't be able to write so candidly.

Here's a hint, Dick Nixon: there's a difference between "candid" and "disingenuously stupid".

Our community is a specific genre of MUD that is over 20 years old. If the style of MUSH played by "most" people on this board is not represented on OR, then those people don't really need to worry about OR. It's that simple.

And, conversely, this is not the board for you to advertise on then. Jesus Fucking Christ! Merciful Fucking Allah! Compassionate Fucking Buddha! Are you really that fucking thick, or is this some Laurie Anderson scale of performance art? Let me guess. You're wearing skates that have been frozen into a large block of ice and are posting on MU Soapbox continually while the ice melts, right?

However, as we've received numerous great users from this site at OR, I would venture to say that your perception is critically flawed.

Name three. (Hint: if you come back with "I won't tell you" you have failed to substantiate your claim and your claim can safely be ignored.)

Oh, this? Another example of misunderstanding intention and ideas.

Note, too, the classic Dick Nixon approach of blaming people for "misunderstanding intention" instead of the original writer for "miscommunicating intention". This is a classic reversal manoeuvre.

Free clue×four here, Dick: it is the job of OR's people to communicate their intent clearly, not our job to read every conceivable intent. If you can't communicate your intent clearly in your advertisements, learn to do so or...

Chorus

Get lost. 滚开. Berambus. Biến đi. चले जाओ।. Хол яв. Hau ab. Vas t'en. Уходи.

@Jaunt said:

There is a constant internal discussion amongst its staff about where we are succeeding, where we are failing, and how we should move forward.

You're succeeding at turning off your very target market. You're failing at PR. You should move forward by learning small things like "telling a discussion board you're not interested in discussion is a Bad Idea".

@Jaunt said:

If you are incapable of identifying your behavior as inappropriately aggressive and bullish, then I have to wonder about you.

My first foray into this thread, 343 messages deep in the cow shit @Jeshin and @crayon had been piling up, was right here.

In that, I point out to @Jeshin that his approach is not working (and I quoted him directly in it, I note). What was his response? Aside from his irritating "Hey," opener, the first three words are "That is incorrect". Yes. Apparently me quoting him saying he's not interested in engaging in conversation on a conversation-oriented board and saying this is a bad idea is "incorrect".

At that point it became clear(er) that he is not here to do anything more than shill. And that his press release-spewing lackey (@crayon) was also not here to do anything more than shill. Salesmen and PR shills bore me. I decided to make it entertaining.

And even with that, the actual, full-blown, hostility didn't even begin to show itself until message 366 in this clusterfuck. And even there it was mild. So it took 43 continued messages of @Jeshin and @crayon missing the point completely and continuing with their "pronouncements from on high" (with both of them stating in clear terms that they did not want to engage in conversation here multiple times!) before actual hostility started to show.

Then, finally, in message 401, a full 57 messages after I pointed out how off-putting your pair of asshats was being came the real hostility.

From my perspective? This particular bull spent an awful long time (20 days) of being tolerant of your pairs' fucktardedness before exploding.

And now you want to go all good cop/bad cop. It's so adorable.

We've been trying to get you fuckers to engage from the first page of this thread. We've been explicitly told by two of you fuckers that they didn't want to engage in conversation.

I'm not certain where you're pulling that information from.

I spotted it first here where @Jeshin said:

Truthfully I think the primary gap to bridge is that we're much more likely to discuss topics freely and with less "this is how it is" style writing on Optional Realities itself. Discussions are content and that content we take time to create we try to keep on the website.

So how 'bout right fucking there, from the Used Car Salesman in Chief of OR itself? Then repeated at least twice by him after that, not to mention the number of times Yappy The PR Shill barked it out like a little shih-tzu as well as he bounced up and down, panting, waiting for whatever treat @Jeshin feeds him for being such a good little lapdog.

If you want to engage in a civil conversation, as I've said, I'll give you clear and civil answers. If you want to be an asshat, well, you can do that too.

Yeah, you clearly demonstrated the latter capability in your very first message here.

Why do I get this feeling that your "engagement" is just going to be broadcasting, this time of bile instead of used car sales?

I don't know. The two individuals ( @ThugHeaven and @surreality ) that have actually tried to engage me civilly with actual conversation instead of ad hominem, I've answered very directly and with no aggression. Perhaps the reason you "get the feeling" that I'm going to answer you with bile is because you've been spitting it all over your keyboard.

And perhaps you need to learn to fucking read and count. Or, and this is just a thought, you need to, and I quote:

Get lost. 滚开. Berambus. Biến đi. चले जाओ।. Хол яв.

To which I will add: Hau ab. Vas t'en. Уходи. All this in the undoubtedly vain hope that you find some words you understand.

Seriously. Now the OR fucktards think good cop/bad cop is going to fly. On a WORA-descended board.

Time to get my stuff together to watch this.

@Jaunt said:

Don't like what OR's trying to do? Cool. I don't really care, because you're not the person that I want to engage in conversation with.

Then go the fuck away. Not a single one of your group of asshats has been trying to engage in a conversation since this whole clusterfuck of a thread started. The best of the breed, @Jeshin, has been a used car salesman. Now we have two more people who don't want to engage in conversation coming here to tell us in loud voices how much they don't want conversation.

Don't want conversation, don't come here. The thread dies down without any kind of talk whatsoever when you bunch of shitheads leave it lie. It only comes back up when you idiots come here to tell us how much you don't want conversation with us.

Fuck. Off.

Go. Away.

Go with God ... just FUCKING GO.

I'm not sure how to word this more clearly. Get lost. 滚开. Berambus. Biến đi. चले जाओ।. Хол яв.

Or, alternatively, and here's a thought, don't come to a discussion board explicitly saying you don't want discussion. 'Cause that's the part that grates the most with your PR. If you're not willing to engage in conversation here, a conversation-oriented board, then you're in the wrong fucking place. Participate in the fucking discussion about your board or get the fuck out.

Engage me, instead.

We've been trying to get you fuckers to engage from the first page of this thread. We've been explicitly told by two of you fuckers that they didn't want to engage in conversation. They only wanted to engage in broadcasting. Now, 415 messages deep, you want to "engage" all of a sudden? Why do I get this feeling that your "engagement" is just going to be broadcasting, this time of bile instead of used car sales?

Mid-Autumn Festival is approaching and as part of the run-up into it we're expected to show our appreciation for things others have done for us. One of my private tutoring students showed up to a session today with this little gift as a "thank you" from his grateful father. Apparently I'm making a difference in his son's English exam scores.

Man, it took all of what, an hour, before @crayon came in here to remind me why I'm staying WAY the fuck away from Optional Realities and affiliated projects.

Dude, sometimes the best PR recourse is to just SHUT THE FUCKING FUCK UP. (In before "we don't care if you don't like us" with "then why the fucking fuck are you here you imbecile!?")

@Jeshin, perhaps, once you've dealt with the (obviously more important) personal issues, it may be time to fit @crayon with a muzzle. You may have come across as a used car salesman to me, but @crayon comes across as a mix between a drill sergeant and the shit I have to scrape off my boots after crossing a cow field.

@Jeshin: Sorry to hear about your dog. Not going to let my distaste for your site colour my humanity. Deal with the dog (and, presumably the rest of the family) before some stupid pretendy fun-time games.

@Thenomain said:

@WTFE said:

But @Sunny! Science fiction is just different from fantasy, not better!

I don't get this one. Someone explain please.

One of the Optional Realities carnival hucksters boiled down this entire thread to (paraphrased) "this entire debate is just like science fiction vs. fantasy and I'm not going to get bogged down in it".

But @Sunny! Science fiction is just different from fantasy, not better!

Don't worry. MUSHing is well on the way to being the greatest, most secure thing ever.

Quote my message. Read what it says.

And note the spelling: "dyes".

I would find "reserving" a name kind of a shit move, yes. There may well be more people who want to name their character "Fred" or "Catriona" or "Rain" or whatever than just you. If you're making a character you have no intent to presently play just so you can have a specific name, that would kind of piss me off if I wanted to make a character with that name.

Stretch your wings a little. Name it Raine. Or Snow. Or Autumnal Gusts of Wind with Light Precipitation. There are quite a few names out there…

Actress Betty White, 92, Dyes Peacefully In Her Los Angeles Home

Yeah, the 1998 one is as bad as the 1980 one. It's mercifully shorter, though, and looks better.

Well, they're common in crap places like McDonald's and the like. But outside they're not.

Those aren't french fries. They're 干煸土豆丝 (lit. "dry-fried shredded potatoes"). They're a slightly-modernized version of 干煸藕丝 (lit. "dry-fried shredded lotus root"), a dish that's been around for ages. This is what I feed visiting 老外 (foreigners) when I want to cause them intense culinary pain. The dried chilis you can see. What you can also see (but may or may not recognize) are the sichuan peppercorns ("prickly ash seed"). Those are what you give people who think that because they can easily slurp down a thousand "suicide" hot wings that they can face anything.

Once they stop bawling on the floor and uncurl…

These.

That is a spectacularly bad show you've found there, @Three-Eyed-Crow! Thanks!

When I first came to China I was met in Shanghai by my co-teacher, a woman from England. She assisted me through the process of switching airports to connect to an internal flight to get to a city near my final destination. After arriving in my new home, she vanished on vacation for a week, leaving me her little shitzoo (sic) in care.

Why am I calling it a shitzoo instead of a shih-tzu? Because this dog was not house trained. Ever. Not once in its life. I found this out the next evening when I got ready for bed, pulled down the quilt, and found a dog turd staring up at me from the sheet. The little shitzoo had actually crawled under the fucking cover, took a shit, then left the rumpled cover there to conceal its little gift.

In that week the dog shit and pissed everywhere at any time. My first week in China was spent chasing after the little shitzoo and cleaning up after its mess. When she came back from her vacation, I told the owner that the dog was not welcome in my home ever. For any reason. Which, of course, she took incredible umbrage to.

It goes without saying that nobody liked going to her apartment because of the dog's little constant gifts.

I spent two years in that college with that coworker. As the foreign teacher contingent expanded, she imposed upon, then alienated one coworker at a time with her little shitzoo. And then complained that we were the ones being inconsiderate and rude.

I think it's hilarious that you keep talking about "the 21st century" without looking at the foundation of MUSHes which is basically gussied-up '70s technology.