Posts made by deadculture

@surreality said in MSB, SJW, and other acronyms:

@saosmash FWIW, I seem to be the word-magnet on the forum now. I don't especially care, though, so it sorta just bounces off.

People screaming it in my face RL? Less bouncy. But that's more 'wtf, there is a total stranger screaming hostilities in my face, what the hell is happening here' than the language they're using.

...I did kinda have to chuckle a little at this tiny frail wee little old lady who hurled it and a shedload of other nastiness at me for sitting on the smoking bench in my mother-in-law's condo complex for having green hair, though. She went off. Baffling as hell and just... so much... whut? Like, it's the smoking bench, but I still expect people to snark or side-eye me for smoking regardless because that's how people do, but it being about the hair just blew my dang mind, for real. She was carrying little sunshine yellow crochet baby shoes she was working on while she yelled, y'all, it was trippy.

Lady has mastered the rare art of knitting while cursing.

@saosmash I've been called a cheeky cunt by angry Brits during a Planetside 2 army operation. Does that count?

@theonceler That's not the bait, that's the hook. GET IT RIGHT

Also, it wasn't unmoderated. Weimar Germany had laws against discriminatory speech:

@theonceler said in MSB, SJW, and other acronyms:

@deadculture said in MSB, SJW, and other acronyms:

@theonceler

You may want to read the part where I said I am from a country where freedom of expression (different from freedom of speech in a few ways) is basically just an empty guarantee by the federal constitution. I'm not doxing myself for your amusement. My bad.

Ah. I did not realize that you were the only person who knew this professor and as such saying his name would lead to jailtime.

My bad.

That's a very Hog Pit-tier kind of bait, I'll say.

@theonceler

Everyone says they want unmoderated free speech course corrected by social admonishment, but no one ever seems to want what that ends up looking like.

I can take my licks just fine. But I also never need to descend to the level of name-calling. I can just describe what I think of people in not so nice but still polite words, when I need to. Labels are limiting, both for the person being labeled and for the person labeling. Why waste your energy with one word when a sentence can do the trick?

What's his name? I'd like to read the story about this fellow.

You may want to read the part where I said I am from a country where freedom of expression (different from freedom of speech in a few ways) is basically just an empty guarantee by the federal constitution. I'm not doxing myself for your amusement. My bad.

@kanye-qwest I was not referring to the specific incidence you're mentioning.

As for safe spaces: I'm already safe. This is a pretty comfy thread. Thanks for the offer, though.

@apos I think it's fair to be called an asshole and if the person isn't prepared to be addressed that way, maybe they should oblige the offended party. It depends on whether the person can dish it out and also take it, ultimately. Preferrably you want to keep channels of discourse open as opposed to shut down, but trolling is trolling and trolls only get their kicks when somebody else is upset.

@lisse24

I think there's a vast difference in moderating the ideas allowed in speech and moderating the type of speech that is allowed. I would never, ever be for the former. No matter how idiotic the idea, I think everyone benefits from having it aired. I think society is increasingly suffering from it's refusal to do the latter.

Like I said, social admonishment will result in standards of compliance. Personal attacks, spreading of false information, inflammatory languages are all well listed in Schopenhauer's The Art of Controversy as being cheap and easy tactics to 'win' an argument. If you're discussing an idea, it would be best if you weren't trying to win the discussion, in my view.

How this applies to MSB, I don't know, but I do know that people need to free themselves of the illusion that unmoderated speech equals free speech.

I seldom see moderation of speech done in a way that's even-handed. You'll often lean one side or another, heavily so, and that will result in ideas being suppressed because they're undesirable to the majority. I haven't seen people here get banned for espousing controversial ideas or viewpoints to what's relevant to the community itself, as pertains to MUSHing or MUXing or what have you, so that's good.

That said, this is a privately owned server with a specific set of rules that govern the expected conduct of the participants. If that's not moderated speech, even if passively moderated (and enforced, given the repeated bans of a known troll), then what is it?

Additionally, I'm not for blacklisting certain words. As another said, words are words. They in and of themselves are (mainly) neutral. However, I do think it's reasonable to moderate the way in which words are used and when someone asks me to not use a certain word as a negative descriptor, it seems only basic decency to comply.

This is, as someone else pointed out in another thread, I think it was @Salty-Secrets, in fact, unevenly applied. 'Dick', 'dickhead', and a lot of other 'male-referring' words can be used and people won't blink once.

You throw a 'cunt' out there, it's armageddon again. And before someone tries to apply critical theory to my argument: please don't. You can't have it both ways. Either do it in the absolute or don't do it at all.

@three-eyed-crow I can be arrested for saying something that an NGO thinks it's racist even when it isn't.

Such as, I know a professor who lost his job and got arrested because he posted the picture of a dark beer, and said:

'For those who said I don't like the dark ones.'

Now he's in jail because some people decided that, a beer joke, was outrageous and racist. In a country where judges have a lifetime position and even when they screw up, the most they get is compulsory retirement. To the tune of, I don't know, 100K USD a year.

So yeah, I could be arrested for things I post here if someone finds it objectionable based on the standing law. In fact, they can subpoena MSB to break my anonymity, get my email, subpoena Google or whatever other provider for my real name, and then keep going up the chain until they get my address and I'm in handcuffs for something I said on the internet.

I believe that speech should always be unmoderated and that social admonishment will take care of course correction, if necessary.

Coming from a place with actual limitations to what they call freedom of expression, down to and including the very necessary element for freedom of speech called anonymity, I find that calls to moderate and squelch 'undesired speech' in any way is like adding a ball and chain to one's own ankles.

Because the goalpost of what's acceptable will keep moving, the more you call for said moderation, until it's 1984 (see my forum avatar) and Big Brother is watching you for signs of Oldspeak.

@kanye-qwest Is that the crazy magician professor?

@rucket I honestly think Rothfuss is even more overrated than George R. R. Martin. At least people can claim they like Martin for other books than the Ice and Fire series.

Rothfuss... has written one and a half books (Wise Man's Fear is the cliffhanger's cliffhanger, come on) and holds on to the shred of fame that gave him.

It's true Dark Horizons had troubles with traveltime. People would also instantly travel from one corner of the universe to another if, say, a main holding of their faction was in trouble.

I think it is fair to enforce some arbitrary number of IC days until someone can travel to and from a sector in the Quaalude system to the Xanax system. A mechanical penalty to a ship (your FTL is recharging and your systems are somewhat powered down) helps illustrate that. That'd keep Captain Smith from jumping 45 sectors with relative impunity to help General Anxious fight in the streets of Ambien II.

(names of sleeping aids included purely to serve as examples, and also because they sound like sci-fi names)

@bananerz I learned to ask the player of someone any of my characters are possibly getting in relationships with about where they see the relationship as going. It's a good way to gauge what they expect out of you and what they stories they want to pursue from it. I figure it's better to have a degree of informed consent on each other's expectations going forward from that point than just winging it and seeing where it goes.

On the other hand, I've played an unhappy couple with a long term online friend of mine and we've had some beautifully tragic and tense scenes as a result of that RP. I'd say it made me a better player, overall, because it was eye-opening, in a way; just how we handled the adversity since we trusted each other as players and had a good degree of separation.

If that show had 100 hours, approximately 88 of them would be Danny Rand whining about his unfair fate of being a billionaire with super powers.

@kanye-qwest said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:

@mietze Height is very weird. My mother was 5'8", my father 6'4". My brother topped out at 6'4" and I'm 5'11". NONE OF US ARE RELATED TO EACH OTHER BY BLOOD. I know who my birth parents were, neither of them were taller than 5'7"

Apropros to nothing, but if both parents are around 5'6" and 5'7", the child's maximum height will be something like 5'10" or 5'11". There's a formula for that and it's uncanny how well it works at predicting height, environmental conditions (how well the child eats, how regularly, etc.) notwithstanding.

@loakey I miss Sariel threatening to eat people.

@faceless That episode, man.

@packrat Justinian.

@arkandel I was the first to post idea pitches for plots. Characters, it gets harder. Depends on theme.