Posts made by WTFE

@Auspice said in Shadowhunters MUSH:

OK. That could be a lot of fun. Plus, y'know, younger generation. They could just go and get a home insemination kit. >.>

Keith Richards.

DAMMIT 2016!

How in the flying fuck did I miss Papa Wemba leaving the stage in April?

@Cupcake I'll chime in with the others on this.

Cut. The. Ties.

I say this as someone who walked away from his parents for close to five years before we finally started normalizing our relationship. I'm convinced to this day that had I not done the severing there never would have been a normalization. It took the shock of me walking out to wake them up. (Well, him, since it was in particular my father I had issues with.)

@Auspice said in RL Anger:

Y'know, I aaaaaaalmost put a disclaimer that I am not available.

Here's what I'm reading: "I almost put a disclaimer, but then decided not to because I might get to trade up."

(This is me running away. Very quickly.)

@Auspice, meet @Wizz. Wizz; Auspice.

Now please just ignore me while I go back here and put on some Barry White (or at least Barry Adamson)…

When he was six, I bought a microscope for my son because he was so fascinated by my magnifying glasses. (Fascinated to the point of trying to work out how to use two of them together…) He loved it. For at least three months he pulled the thing out daily to see things up close. It's a pretty low-grade microscope but he loves it anyway. Even now, three years later (almost to the day--I got him his microscope for his birthday) he still occasionally pulls it out to peek at things. Say once or twice a month.

But…

First, it's a pretty crappy microscope all things considered. Sure it does the job, but it doesn't do it particularly well. And then on top of everything else it has all the usual issues of microscopy: setting up slides, for example, and having no real ability to take it out to where the interesting things are.

This birthday this will all change. There's a new microscope in town, and this new one is a portable, digital microscope with its own screen. It can be used standalone, snapping pictures or taking video of what it sees. It can be plugged into a computer via USB and then used with any USB camera or video software (including software that comes bundled with it). It can also be plugged into a television for live display.

I'm pretty sure my son is going to shit.

@Faceless You're a monster!

And don't forget that 2016 still has five days left to get Buzz Aldrin.

@Lithium said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

I'd be in the same boat with MUCK most likely.

I suspect that you'd be just as comfortable had you started with MUCK. Forth and Lisp-like thinking are basically similar, only with Forth you wear your hat and shoes backwards.

@Auspice said in RL things I love:

2016 may have been an incredibly rough year (personally, as well as everything else), but it's definitely ending on a high note.

That's because Buzz Aldrin hasn't died yet.

@faraday said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

I've struggled with the same things with Ares, so I completely sympathize. Using modern tools means using a patchwork of stuff. That's just the way modern software tools are.

It doesn't have to be, it's just that the broken cruft won the adoption wars (like it seemingly always does).

There are languages and environments out there that are complete, integrated front-to-back-end stacks that don't require the wobbling pile of shit that is conventional web development. Off the top of my head there's the web stack in SWI-Prolog, there's a language/runtime called "Oma" or something like that?, there's MIT's Ur/Web stuff, there's … well, suffice it to say there's a huge variety of approaches to avoiding the dog's breakfast that is "modern" web development.

But …

Programmers, for all their posturing over "bleeding edge" fetishes, are at their core so conservative they make the Family Values Party look like pinko commies. I've seen "rock star" programmers--not self-identified as such, but identified as such by colleagues!--recoil from a language because it didn't use curly braces. The most popular "developer platform" is a warmed-over remake of '70s technology (that was itself a pared-to-the-bone remake of '60s technology).

There isn't a 1960s methodology or a 1970s language design that programmers have seen that they don't embrace wholeheartedly as the One True Way of doing things. And they'd far rather incrementally add one more steaming pile of dung onto an existing steaming pile of dung than start to work with, you know, something that isn't horseshit. (Evidence: C++, Java, and C#.)

This is why web development is such a shit experience and why web apps are such broken shit apps.

But really, especially in the hobby space, it makes little sense to follow the ultraconservative proclivities of "professionals". You'd think in the hobby space it would make more sense to try out things that could be fun. But apparently you'd think wrong…

@Roz said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

That is, I don't think anyone said it was "for professional programmers only".

Sorry, I should have been clearer in my reply. But it was stuff like this:

@WTFE said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

Now, again, if the target market is professional programmers who want a professional (where "professional" is defined as "senselessly complicated for no good reason: cf. enterprise") development environment for their pretendy-fun-time-text-game hobby, then Evennia probably hits close to a sweet spot.

If, however, the market is broader and includes hobbyists it has, IMO, fallen far short of what's needed to appeal there.

"Targeted at" =/= "exclusively usable by". On my desk at this very moment I have about a half-dozen pieces of kit targeted at electrical engineers. (These are: a bench power supply, an oscilloscope, a logic analyzer, a spectrum analyzer, a spiffy digital multimeter, an arbitrary waveform generator and a LoRa development module for the record. OK, that's seven, not half-a-dozen. Call it a baker's half-dozen.) I'm not an electrical engineer. This doesn't stop me from both owning and regularly using these items. (Well, OK, I don't own the spectrum analyzer. Those things are FUCKING EXPENSIVE! It's on loan.)

Nobody (sane), however, would disagree with me that these things are anything but targeted at engineers. The fact that a non-engineer is capably using them is quite irrelevant.

Oh, and at home I have all of the above (sans spectrum analyzer) and a few dozen pieces more (including more JTAG/SWD adapters than I know what to do with).

This is the context in which I meant "the target market…".

@Ashen-Shugar said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

And if not, hey, it'll be a hell of a lot of fun making the attempt.

And that is fine. More than fine, really. If you're not enjoying code you're writing as a hobby I'd seriously question your sanity.

@AntiZero said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

@WTFE Ha! I love the Internet. It's so easy to say things that would get you beat in person.

Can someone refresh my memory: is this a "finish your drink" or "finish the bottle" move?

@Roz said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

I just want to point out that, as he's talked about it on Arx, which I think is the biggest running Evennia game, @Tehom is not a professional programmer and hadn't tried coding in a number of years before the Arx team started building. So the idea that Evennia can only be handled by professional programmers is demonstrably untrue.

data n. 1. plural form of anecdote
-- no dictionary ever

You're sounding like Haskell enthusiasts here. "No, you don't need to be a mathematician to truly appreciate Haskell! See, here's our single, go-to user who is a humanities major who likes Haskell! We'll just ignore the literally thousands who tried and recoiled from Haskell just last month alone and cling to her because that way we don't have to modify anything!"

@AntiZero said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

Cling to your old way, grandpa. Watch the world pass you by.

You really are hard of reading, aren't you?

I have repeatedly called MUSHes "a horror". I have no particular love for MUSHes and MUSH servers and MUSHcode (and indeed the latter I quite despise--you only have to look up a few messages to see me talking about its shitty capacity for modularity, for example).

My "old way" was outlined above too, incidentally. Such "old ways" as being web- (and mobile app-) centric. And being user-focused instead of programmer-focused. But this would require you to get over your fucking butthurt and actually read what the Bad Man has actually written instead of what the Straw Bad Man wrote in your meth-addled mind. (I'm doing you the courtesy of assuming you actually have one. A mind, I mean.)

@AntiZero said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

@WTFE well it's probably the only accurate thing you've said on this thread. So kudos.

I'm pretty sure "MUSHcode is a fucking horror of a language" is also accurate.

Son, free clue here before you embarrass yourself too much: there is literally nothing you can say that will bother me. You're a name on a screen. And a pretty fucking idiotic one to boot. (What the fuck kind of moron names himself after someone he despises?)

@AntiZero said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

@WTFE Wow, you are kind of a prick.

It's taken you this long to figure it out? Wow, you are kind of slow.

Little free clue, Sparky: Earlier when I referred to "a special breed of asshole", it was a self-reference.

@faraday said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

But I like to think it's a marked improvement over my Penn codebase because each plugin clearly defines the interfaces (APIs) that other plugins are allowed to use.

One of the things that makes me call MUSHcode "a fucking horror" is its utter lack of modularity, so kudos here.

@Griatch said in What is out there? Hard and soft codebases of choice.:

We do accept PRs...

The F/OSS mantra of choice when faced with complaints about software that the programmer doesn't want to deal with.