@Lisse24 said in Historical MU*s:
I think any game that is depending on staff to create all the Things to Do is ultimately going to fail. I just haven't seen a sustainable model for that - unless you count Fallcoast/TR, which is its own beast.
Players should provide the majority of Things To Do. But it's still staff's responsibility - on historical MU* and otherwise - to facilitate, encourage and get out of the way of them doing so.
@Ganymede said in Historical MU*s:
Most
historicalgames fail for the reasons already obliquely referenced in prior posts.
...
The problem, more often than not, is the lack of things to do.
FTFY.
@Lotherio , @Ganymede, you are both monsters and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
I don't come to MSB to learn things.
@Thenomain said in Historical MU*s:
Are the characters leaders trying to stave back the Danes? Will they be allowed to?
Hm, emphasis mine.
Are significant deviations from history permitted on historical games? Is Asimov's invisible hand guiding the way things are supposed to be? And yes, you could just never give players a shot at tipping the scales at critical points in history but that's kinda boring. Yet if they do the premise can swiftly change to a 'what-if'.
@Kanye-Qwest said in Historical MU*s:
@Lotherio I get it, I just still think that sort of game would require constant GMing and plot feed to sustain any number of players, unless you just want three history pedants arguing in the ooc channel about which clasp was possible in what year and what it meant for pack animals, or some shit.
I agree with you on that one but I want to add that unless the game has been designed from scratch to deliver content in other ways, it'll fail to sustain any number of players anyway if there isn't enough plot being served.
See: Most sandbox games these days which fail to survive their first six months.
@Coin Apples and oranges is what I'd call it!
Even if a historical MU* isn't trying to be 100% accurate in the depiction of whatever era it's set at (and it shouldn't) the era still existed and what it depicts is at least based on concrete information; we have a decent idea of how Rome worked, or what Victorian London was like.
The Hyborean Age is fictional and falls into the same 'fantasy' category as Game of Thrones or LotR MU*.
... Having said that I'd probably play it. 
It's weird no Conan game has become popular (as far as I know).
@Coin said in Historical MU*s:
The Hyborean Age would be a great era for the kind of game I was talking about above.
At that point isn't it just a fantasy game?
@Kanye-Qwest That's the main issue with historical games, always. You have to do movie/TV takes on them (i.e. only touch the surface) and unlike modern games they absolutely can never be sandbox since people simply won't know enough to kick-start thematic RP on their own.
The plot and metaplot gears must be constantly turning for a MU* like this unless it's basically Witcher with RL history names pinned on everything.
@Ganymede said in Good or New Movies Review:
It's worth noting that Patrick Stewart was originally sought for the role of Dr. Fries in Batman and Robin, due to the complexity of the character and his backstory.
Also because he's bald! That's known to be how Hollywood producers think.
(But yes, I made it up)
@Auspice How about people chasing after ambulances/fire trucks with their sirens on to use them as a battering ram to go through traffic?
A fire truck had its sirens on and was coming from the opposite direction so I stopped on my bike, other cars did... but this chick walking her dog who was about to cross the road turns at the sound, sighs at it then crosses deliberately, forcing it to stop completely. But it's okay I guess because she had a hurried pace on as she did it.
What the hell, lady.
@Auspice The way - and reason - I play the game is still the same as Ingress; it gives me something to do while I walk or hike.
The idea of spoofing it is, to me, absurd because if I'm at my PC there are many (many!) far superior games I could be playing - why bother with Pokemon Go unless I'm outside?
Maybe I'm playing the devil's advocate here but I wanted to point something else out though, and it's as a long-time dog, cat and moluccan cockatoo (<sigh>) owner.
Not everyone loves animals, not every space has to allow them - or at least not leash-free. There is a park near my house with several "No Dogs Allowed" signs outside which is usually crawling with owners playing catch with their pets, not to mention a second one clearly marked as leash-only which similarly sports several furry critters running around.
This isn't good. People who don't appreciate, are afraid of (or, yes, allergic to) animals there should be some public places they can visit without being triggered. Similarly I'm quite aware one of my dogs isn't very well behaved in the presence of other small dogs, and as such it's stressful when I walk her in the leash-only park and she's approached by free-roamers as that's a fight waiting to happen.
We need to be mindful of other people too.
@Lotherio said in Realms - Sir Kay - Lotherio:
Its coming to my attention that there are a lot of rumors flying around about me and on-line dating and having a history of making games and dumping them and starting staff OOC drama.
Ethel Barrett once said, “We would worry far less about what others think of us if we realized how seldom they do.”
It is quite true.
I guess not? That sounds like an issue between management and their CG / Premises Liability insurance carrier and/or agent.
IANAL but there are actual laws in many places that explicitly forbid the presence of non-service dogs in certain places where food is sold or served.
There are people less good with hygiene - or manners - than many dogs I know, yet that's still a factor.
@Auspice said in Pokemon Go:
I am lucky to hold a gym for a few hours.
What the hell is with those monstrous Pokethings up in gyms, where are they coming from? I saw a 3200 (!) fucker up on a gym the other day, too many are well in the 2500+ range.
Meanwhile I'm playing quite frequently, I've spent dusts and candy upgrading/evolving some of my Pokemon and the highest one I have is... 1550?
@surreality said in RL Anger:
@GangOfDolls This is a lot like my mother's entirely psychosomatic 'allergy' to smoke.
My mom spent most of her life thinking dogs and cats are inherently dirty and trying to convince me I was allergic to them - it didn't take, I loved pets from when I was a toddler and never stopped.
Anyway, while I was staying with them for a year right after graduation I brought home a stray cat. She was grumbling about that and kept asking me not to but the cat stayed... and eventually she became her cat. To the effect of 'buying and cooking fish for Sasha (which she cleaned of course) because she looked bored of dry food lately".
The cat adored her. She hated 99% of humankind and was a living weapon to all other animals but she loved us, and my mom most of all. When my mom passed away Sasha was in the room with her, as she had been for the majority of the months leading up to it.