@egg said in Are there any active sci-fi MU*s these days?:
Thank you. Any idea how accessible the game is if you are not super familiar with BSG? One can always learn, of course.
Pretty accessible. The BSG Universe is somewhat realistic; it's just set in the future. They have a wiki page you can read through: http://bsgunificationmush.wikidot.com.
Battlestar Galactica: Unification is open and accepting applications.
@WTFE said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
I have no experience with it. We're talking the past tense though; any particular reason?
It was around the time that SWOFA became less vitriolic that IGU faded away. IGU was a place where the hate was forbidden, and posters were encouraged to try to come up with solutions for problems. Problems would be reported, but it was substantially more civil than here even.
I play because I want to.
I mean, that's what it boils down to. My motivations change from day to day. It's a good way to have a side distraction when I'm working on a long writing project, for one thing.
And there's lots of people that I like to play with.
@WTFE said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
That was it. Electric Soup. Anybody who wants to make a nicey-nice MUSH-oriented forum had better pay close attention to Electric Soup and see why it failed so spectacularly.
IGU (Idealistic Gamers Unite) worked just fine. I recall having many civil sparring sessions with ICE and Peverel there.
@Shlappy said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
Likely, it's a combination of 'all of the above'. Still - if there is a hate mob in the MUSH community, you will find it here. And that's...disconcerting.
You sure about that?
From what I'm hearing, the hate mobs are being encouraged to go to some other server or program or something.
@Three-Eyed-Crow said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
I wouldn't mind seeing the reputation system done away with, since some of the high rep people are MU*ers I know personally are drama-flaily hypocrites I would like to reach through the Internet and punch in the goddamn face.
YOU ARE SO MEAN TO ME.
(I concur.)
@Ghost said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
I think that WORA and MSB have been responsible for more negative behavior than positive. In fact, I'm of the opinion that WORA and MSB are primarily positive mostly as a resource for finding out which games are the new games.
I can't argue with an opinion, which is what I call a statement cannot reasonably be proven as false. So, one of the things I have to decry is how, on WORA and MSB, opinions masquerade as facts.
WORA/MSB help spread and cement the following negative behaviors:
- The creation of cliques centered around board veterans, and the weird maintaining of ooc reputation through board posts alone
Allow me to concur with @Thenomain by laughing so hard at this that my food literally fires out of my ass and shreds my underwear.
- Mob-justice, valid or invalid, gets taken to the boards where anyone unethical with a slightly convincing argument can use the board as a social dominance tool
I have yet to see any game or clique rise or fall based on what was said on WORA or MSB. You're free to provide an example.
- Promotion of the player over the character, thus expanding the assumption that all characters are the player
The connection between players and characters has been discussed ad nauseam, with no concurrence. I guess I better remind my partner that I've been on stage as Othello, so that bitch better not lose my hanky.
- The ooc connection Nexus for players to spread gossip, which is usually heavily one-sided, and build that into the community's network.
This board shares and shreds gossip in equal measure.
If you mean to say that community members may have greater sway over other members because they have better skills of persuasion? I can get behind that. And has this misled others? It sure has, as a truism. But that's the nature of communicating in a written medium, so you might as well rail as to how newspapers seem to be able to convince people of their perspective by publishing articles that others read.
@Thenomain said in Mass Effect: Andromeda: The Thread:
Pull + Throw has been a lot of fun. I am discovering that Biotics really sucks against armor (note to @Ganymede here for RPG consideration), while my Combat/Tech build chewed through both armor and shields like it was made of candy.
Biotics have always been poor against Armor. In the RPG, you use Biotics to knock a target out of cover, where your marksman can pick them apart.
@Pandora said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
A game is 'doing it right' when it doesn't wind up on WORA/MSB. That said, I think games that voluntarily advertise on MSB are very brave and open-minded, though they should keep in mind that they'll be attracting a specific sort of crowd that is heavily biased toward 'The Way We Do Things Just Because It's How We Do It'. I enjoy MSB for what it is and for reasons I mentioned earlier in the thread. But I'd never voluntarily bring any game I play to anyone's attention here; my internet life has been very peaceful this year since the MU I play primarily isn't on MSB and most people there either don't know what MSB is or are scandalized/terrified by what they read here.
It's good to be brave and open-minded.
Like many, I oppose the idea that this board is dominated by WoD games. This sounds hypocritical coming from me, I guess, because it is true that the vast majority of my experiences come from those games. That said, any comment I make to which I would attach experience as my basis of understanding is invariably going to come from a WoD game. That doesn't mean my opinion is any less apt from that basis, but I don't think it's entirely fair to say that I and folks like me are knowingly trying to dominate the conversation and steer it towards WoD games (and I know that's not what you intended to say).
But, I get what you're hinting at, and I mostly agree. There are a lot of games out there that are doing just fine. Some advertise here, some don't. And I wish they would because I am open to new experiences.
SW: Fires of Hope looks nifty. I made a PC there, but I haven't gotten all the way through the CGen process. I also ginned up a PC on End of Days, but I too have not completed the process. SW: Dawn of Defiance was a lot of fun, but it wasn't for my entire crew. And, to be frank, I did have fun at Kushiel's Debut, Arx, and other games that I've played on.
In my opinion, many game designers and operators don't want their work bashed on. So, they've concluded that our Hive-Mind will poo-poo anyone that comes here. This is untrue. I can understand why anyone wouldn't want bad publicity, but a lot of games get good publicity here too. And just because an incident arises that could make a game look bad does not mean that others won't or can't see past the bullshit.
I really liked my time on this one BSG game I played on. Cerberus, I think it was?
But I've never really gotten into the series. Really. Never watched it.
I have an itch to play on a sci-fi game. Is this the game for me? I mean, can I pick up the feel through RP, or am I going to be so lost because I'm not familiar with the show's canon?
@HelloProject said in Comic book diversity:
Something like Boom comics just feels like a goddamned breath of fresh air, where you can buy a comic, read it, and go "Oh, that was nice", without the entire comic being like "Buy this other comic if you wanna know what happened!" like 6 times in a single issue.
I'd really like it if comic books learned from other mediums. They don't. And that's a problem: times are a-changin', and the industry is not keeping up.
A pity.
@Carex said in Fear and Loathing:
No, I'm saying it's a system which needs constant monitoring and is likely just to break down over time. It is inefficient, overly complicated and a waste of staff resources.
So, you are saying that you don't like playing in a fully-constructed, operational, thematic-to-a-T Vampire sphere.
@Carex said in Fear and Loathing:
Power > Title every time. Just ask Trump. He thought he was going to have real power but all he got was nice title and a crash course on who really runs the country once he got into office.
So, basically, you don't like playing on a fully-constructed, operational, thematic-to-a-T WoD game.
@Thenomain said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
All of that said, I am elated that it's largely changed. I'm seeing different kinds of online games discussed and advertised. A lot of what I'm seeing (and a lot of what I'm saying!) can be too analytical--get your hands dirty, people, and make games and play games and rar!--but a lot of people who have been too afraid to say anything are saying things for the first time in ever. That's awesome.
I'm glad I'm not composing multi-page responses to shit these days.
Like, what the fuck, did I have that much spare time? I'm a loser of a different variety these days.
I mean I don't use wimpy passwords for anything anyway, but that thing had some absurd requirements - like 10 characters, two non-alpharithmetic, mixed case?
I hate it when people get annoyed at difficult things.
Like, it's difficult. For you. Not for the rest of us.
I love you, man, but, like, yeah, fuck, shit, perspective.
@surreality said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
There's so much talent here in this community, but plenty of people are (quite understandably) not at all willing to do things because it's like painting a target on their face, ass, and heart all at once.
I'm not sure if MSB's nature is the cause for this reluctance.
People with creative talent usually get recognized for the same away from these games. And, when they do, they have less time for the games.
@Tinuviel said in Fear and Loathing:
They're NPCs. Glorified NPCs. What is the point?
Some people want to play powerful elder characters among neonates. This is way to enable it.
