@Misadventure This thought has crossed my mind a few times. And I feel like the case me something the same or at least similar to my own.
I've been told by friends who have likewise situations that getting on some kind of medication is like two different things.
It would be nice to not have to worry about everything all the time.
@surreality Wish you the best and a speedy recovery. Sending positive thoughts.
Mostly I'm writing this because it didn't really fit into @Catsmeow thread. That's more of the physical health. This more along the lines of mental well-being and how to take care of one's self. Although some of may be completely stable, normal human beings with few hangups and luckily enough have a decent and sensible head on their shoulders and some may have their own issues they struggle with every day and most simply don't know.
Speaking for myself, and this has been a very long time in coming(years, even), I've realized that I need to work on me, myself. And for the longest of time, again, years, I thought these were problems I could deal with on my own. That I didn't really need help, the belief that I had them completely under control. Turns out I don't, or maybe I never did. And I couldn't say what started it all. Come from a middle class(when we used to have a middle class)family, grew up in a rural area, so I like to think that it had nothing to do with my upbringing.
Even as I sit here and type this, at 34 years of age, I can feel myself starting to get angry at the belief that this should not be an issue. That I'm old enough that I shouldn't worry about this sort of thing. So why do I feel the way that I do about various things? Now, I'm not going to self-diagnose myself since I think we do too much of that(like staring at WebMD and believing you have cancer), but after talking to enough people, asking for honest opinions and the niggling prick at the back of my head I've had for years leads me to believe I've had a certain degree of depression my entire life. The constant self-doubt, the feelings of not being 'good enough' and the continual sense that I'm 'being a bother' or that I'm simply not living up to other people's expectations. Or that I'm simply not worth it. Doubt, self-esteem, things like that.
My fiance tells me this is something I should've been treated for ages ago(I also wish I had her ability to pick up and drop RPing and not care), and I guess she came to the opinion that I'll face it when I'm ready to do so. So that's where I'm at now, trying to move forward from there. And it has bled into my MU life more than I'd like to admit. That you want to be 'worth another RPers time' or have some kind of sense of belonging or trying not to have that feeling that you're just not good enough for you or your character to be interesting to others. And the more I focused on that, the worse I seemed to get. Always feel like having to say 'sorry' during pages because you feel like you've said too much or you're spamming someone or you're afraid they don't want to talk to you. The list goes on, really.
It all seems silly, reading this back to myself. That I should just be able to 'grow up' or not let it bother me or have fun for me and not anyone else. And I know that and I tell myself that all the time. I just don't know why I can't let myself do just that, and I want to. But I think that now that I've finally admitted these things to myself and to a greater audience at large, I can try to get better. Improve on not just myself from beyond the computer and the MUs, but be able to do so within them as well. I was willing to ignore a lot in the name of a lot of things, but I can't do that anymore.
And now that I've talked about myself enough for these things, there is another actual point to the thread. Being that what other people do help themselves when it comes to mental health. Whether it's seeking advice, council, even medication or things along those lines. Because at this point, I don't know if I could afford seeing a therapist or medication, so I've been doing what I can to read up on things to help myself. It's a far better than just ignoring it and thinking I'm fine. And maybe what worked for someone else will work for me.
This is my horde of animals.
The cat loaf in front is Old Man Merlin. Had him since 2005. He's old, going deaf. But he's the best cat I've ever had. He does nothing but want your affections and will be happy to sit next to you on the couch all damn day. He may not be able to hear a damn thing you say, but somehow he knows when a package of lunch meat is being opened.
The gray floof in the middle is Gandalf. This cat usually has a constantly worried expression, and I'm pretty sure he's scared of his own shadow. He doesn't meow, he simply chirps. My friend has decided to start calling him Floof Wizard.
And that bitch in the back is Saskia. She's dense as hell, both literally and figuratively. She's constantly being a little shit and she's either too fat or too lazy to clean her own butt, so randomly there's butt streaks on the carpet that I have to scrub. She can be sweet, but those times are rare.
The fact that you were willing to put effort into it says something. I say keep doing it, no matter how much or how little, it's having the drive to keep doing it, even if you don't see progress at first.
Especially if you don't see progress at first. But keep at it. It will show.
Nobody mentioned Rhonda Rousey's MMA career being killed after getting knocked out in 48 seconds.
Alright I have a question.
Trying to get spawns to work and it's been a real pain in the ass. Because the spawn window pops on with chan talk(which is what I'm used spawns for), but the chan chatter appears in both the main window and spawn window. How do I get to to put chan chatter on just the spawn and now both?
Likely going to be something silly that I completely looked over.
Whenever a troll logs in, a MU gets it's wings.
Been asking around,but nobody seems to know where you up and vanished to. Give a holler if you ever see this.
I live in a duplex. So we only really have one neighbor who lives across from us. I can't stand them. For one, they're loud as fuck. They apparently must be deaf because there are times I can hear their tv clear as day.
And I know they smoke copious amounts of pot. Not that I care about that, I used to smoke the fuck up when I lived by myself, but the fact that I walk into my bedroom and can smell the reek of pot in there is just really annoying. Also, their kid has some kind asthma because we can hear him have coughing fits through the wall.
So yeah, light that joint, bro. Not like your kid is going to mind or anything.
My cat, normally a large, old fatass, who's more content to sleep all the time, becomes alive at the mere whiff of milk. I can never have a bowl of cereal in peace.
Also, for some reason my Spotify program has stopped working and I have no idea why. Which is a shame because I've been on a Pearl Jam kick recently.
I don't know if this has already been covered in this thread, I didn't read through the entire thing, but I find what's more rare than an honest apology from someone owning up to what they've done, is the idea of forgiveness for someone fucking up on a game to someone else.
This was bred out of a conversation I recently had with someone on a game. And it got me thinking. For all the bile and angst and rage that MUs seem to generate at times, we hear so few of the times that players who have had beef in the past being able to move forward, forgive the other person(or even admit their own fault to where the anger came in some cases)and move forward.
There have been a certain number couple of times where I've heard someone say "Oh, I can't believe that X and Y are friends again. Especially after what X did/said/done to/about Y." And I sometimes ponder to myself how unfortunate it is that it's so rare that we hear about it. Or least, from my perspective anyways. Made me wonder why this this.
If it's just a symptom of it being the internet, that anonymity allows grudges to fester, sometimes for years. It's true that this isn't exclusive to MUing. Far from it, but I suppose this is my best example since this is where I see it most often. I guess, I try to look at from the standpoint of, "holy shit aren't we supposed to be adults about this?". Which yeah, is easier said than done(and we say this so much I notice), notably if you're one of the injured parties involved. It's easier to be mad and resentful than it is to look at it from the other perspective.
And maybe there are just some truly shitty people in the world. Not saying everyone is a saint either. We fuck up, we make mistakes, we lie. I know I have and have lost people that I valued as a RP partner in the process of that, and I do regret that. But the number of times I look at myself and consider how many people I've forgiven versus the number of people that I haven't and that number is eschewed heavily to one side that I can't say I'm all that proud of. So maybe it is easier to just be mad and hold some animosity for some stupid shit that one person did months or even years ago, when realistically, I can't think of a reason why I'm still mad. Only that I am. Especially when that reason seems more and more petty. Maybe it seemed relevant at the time, less so now. The whole concept of the Hatfields and the McCoys, they keep fighting a war they no longer know why they're fighting anymore.
Maybe you're angry because you feel slighted. That you didn't do anything wrong, and yet get your name dragged through the proverbial MU mud. Because once your name is tarnished, it's so hard to get back. And it doesn't even matter whether or not what you did is even true. Because easier to avoid that person on chans, leave scenes the other person is in, and just be petty.
Or maybe you're angry because someone was honestly shitty to you. They lied to you, screwed you over for some kind of IC advantage or magic macguffin. Or lied to you OOC, saying one thing and doing another. Or they hurt a friend of yours in a IC or OOC way. The list is pretty long for reasons why.
You could do nothing and let the anger fester because you don't want to cause some kind of confrontation that could spiral out of control. Which happens in a lot of cases. On the flip side you can also be a dick and antagonistic(though depending where you play, it might just get you banned) instead of just asking, 'so yeah, i'm pissed at you, but I want to hear your side of it. I want to know why you did/said X'. Maybe they'll apologize, maybe they won't, maybe they'll lie to your damn face, but maybe the fact that you considered long enough to actually broach the topic says more than than anything else. Some might appreciate it, some might not care, but I feel like what matters is that you tried.
Though what I think is the most insidious of all this is the word of mouth. You hear from one person that X did/said this about Y and you, someone who had nothing to do with the situation decides, well shit, they're an assclown, fuck them and the horse they rode in on. Holy damn, that is something I was horrible with for a long time. Come to my shock that, wait hold on, Y isn't even that bad, why the hell was I even mad at them?
It might mean nothing in the end. At the very end of the day, most people, beyond the ones you talk to on a heavy OOC basis where you share Skype handles and phone numbers, don't mean much. They're lives will never intersect with yours beyond whatever method of online media you partake in(unless you stream Twitch and someone decides to be a dick and SWATs you). But the longer I've been in this hobby the more I think I should actually try forgiving people that I've fell out of touch with, especially if the fault was mine, or if I've deserved some measure of it in some kind situation where neither side came out looking pretty. And on the other hand, I should be willing to forgive when someone honestly comes to me and apologizes.
Or maybe I'm just getting older and more jaded and realizing that I'm indeed 'getting too old for this shit'. Could just be simply as not caring as much as I used and letting really old and dumb reasons for being angry go.
tl;dr Monogram matures a little
@Thenomain said in I'm out:
Cobalt has several of us making sure she remains out, because she wants to be out. If she wants to come back, it will be because she wants to come back.
Out from MUing in general or out from this place in particular?
It's evil. Full of carbs and gluten. Anyone who's proponent of white bread is a bad person.
Like @WTFE
Bad person.
This kinda makes me want to start a thread about bread. Something bland and boring as bread and if it erupts into a debate.
Just to see if it happens.
@Arkandel said in The Apology Thread:
Man, on MSB we can't even apologize without debating about it.
I've been waiting for someone to say it.
