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@Lithium

Also also also.

One of the OTHER things I've noticed that alongside less tolerance for rule-breaking is the fact that I don't make as MANY rules. My questions list for whether or not a rule is necessary has gotten way longer.

Why is this needed?
Is it a personal taste issue that has nothing to do with anything?
Am I making this rule just because other games have this rule?

The big ones I've added to my wheelhouse lately is:
Am I willing to do what would be required to enforce it?
Am I willing to be the one responsible for enforcing it?
Will I enforce it?

(yes, yes, doublepost, but I didn't feel like an edit was appropriate for this. shut up.)

@Lithium

Yeah, totally, and we'll probably have something saying 'I read all the rules' and stuff...but that doesn't mean people actually read them, and while it's annoying as all hell...enh. I don't read ELUAs like I should. It happens. But yeah, I agree in general with what you're saying.

@Lithium

Yep. And I think those 'immediate boot to the face' things are different for most game leads. My button issue is 'if I catch you fucking spying OOC I will end you'.

Though honestly the longer I do this hobby the longer my list of 'no second chances, do this and you're gone' things is. I was checking through my policies mentally to see which ones I'd be more likely to allow a 'second chance' for and I'm coming up mostly with 'none of them'. Mainly I think it would be doing things not-by-the-rules by reasonable 'ignorance' standards -- they didn't know the rules for PRPs and didn't realize it was different than X or Y's game, or something like that. If the primary problem is 'didn't read a news file' and not what I feel should be common standards of behavior (if someone tells you to stop paging them, STOP) or whatever, that's where I'd give people chances. Where I can say -- yeah, this is traditionally different here and while yes you should have read the files, go do that now, and all the other ones, too -- that I can easily see what happened. If it's not a situation like that, though? Meh, I'm not big on second chances any more. Cause a problem? Bye.

For me, it just greys out anything that's specifically related to Cirno talking, so things are greyed out (but not entirely unreadable) that are replies to his stuff. Like...half-ignore. It's kinda weird.

@Admiral said in Do you believe in paranormal things?:

It's like believing in Bigfoot. The overwhelming, complete absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

Clearly you don't live in the PNW. It's actually illegal to shoot Bigfoot here. Why would that be a law if he didn't exist , huh? HUH?

@Collective said in [Request] Policy Template:

@Sunny said in [Request] Policy Template:

I don't think it's a good idea to have a single file called 'rules'. Too long, nobody will read, and if you want to reference a specific rule you have to spam yourself. Break them down into separate files, titled by their subject, and each is their own policy. Slap on a policy index and go.

Seriously. Do it that way, not this way. Experience speaking.

I think I have a skewed viewpoint on what constitutes 'too long', which is suddenly worrying me about running a MUSH with an original theme now.

Still, that's good advice, thanks.

I am queen of wordy, I get it. Theme /setting files are a whole different beast than policy files. Short. Simple. Blunt. I'm awful at it, but I recognize the need. Usually I use a ghostwriter. Because wordy. But this makes me look succinct. Do not be me.

I don't think it's a good idea to have a single file called 'rules'. Too long, nobody will read, and if you want to reference a specific rule you have to spam yourself. Break them down into separate files, titled by their subject, and each is their own policy. Slap on a policy index and go.

Seriously. Do it that way, not this way. Experience speaking.

Rules provide people with a framework of expectations and help define the social contract. Having rules doesn't keep people from breaking them, just gives you a good litmus test for your staff. Do they follow their own rules? If yes, yay, good staff, good game. If not, it's time to start looking elsewhere.

I know that one of my primary design questions for putting policy together for a current project is 'am I willing to enforce this, and if so, how?'

It's helped me yank out a whole lot of subjective BS to be replaced with easily enforced black and white policies, and made it so those things that are subjective are clearly called out as such.

None of it is a behavior framework, though -- it's all an expectation framework.

Yeah, no. I don't believe anything exists that science will not eventually be able to explain.

Wait, so we're not supposed to put feedback in ad threads anymore?

@Roz said in RL Anger:

My roommate was on disability for a while after their fibro diagnosis, and their birth mom -- who is kind of a mess and has historically been super awful and unreliable -- offered to pay three months of my roomie's rent to help them out. We just found out that the rent was never paid (and she never told my roommate)and our landlord is suddenly like, hey you owe us two and a half grand. My roommate never asked me to help pay it when they sat me down to tell me what had happened, or even implied anything, but they don't have emergency resources/family with money to help with things like this, and I do and also have savings, so I'm just -- paying it. I'll probably never see the full amount again, but it's still better than my roommate -- who is a kind person even if they are not as responsible as they should be -- taking out some awful predatory payday loan or something. (Someone stole their identity years ago and did a number on their credit, too.)

This on top of a whole mess of work stress and family death anniversary and I literally just broke down last night talking to them about this. I'm not even angry, I'm just exhausted.

Upvoting not because of the situation (I am so sorry, man) but because you're a really, really, really good person. Thank you for doing this for your roomie. As someone who has been utterly hammered a number of times through my own stupidity combined with some fairly unfortunate events...thank you. It's people like you that make the world a livable place.

I don't really think 3 downvotes is particularly hammering.

I miss you!

Use whatever server your coder prefers. If you don't have a coder, stop development and focus your attention on either learning to code yourself or on recruiting one. We all have our preferences and there is no 'objectively better in all ways' server. Penn has FS3, Mux has a package of out there, etc. 'What do I use?' vs 'What are your design goals?'

Listening to my co-workers talk about Orlando. Thank god it's nobody I work with, directly. I really wish my office had some sort of 'don't do that'.

@VulgarKitten Yeah. That was a terribly unpleasant scene. You got me, anyone would've asked me for a FTB after that. Gosh, I'd forgotten how mean Lili was.

@VulgarKitten said in Kushiel's Debut:

@Shlappy said in Kushiel's Debut:

@VulgarKitten Yet important enough to you still to bring up almost 2 years later...

To illustrate the hypocrisy here. For that, yep, it was important enough to bring up. I could have just said it was hypocrisy without providing an example but that seems kind of silly.

There is a significant difference between 'the only staff run plot scene on the game in months' and 'one specific side plot' and I'm sorry you don't seem to get that. There's also a really significant difference between the Spider-situation and what happened on KD. If you really think that e-mail or the FB messages were appropriate, I'm not really sure what to say to you.

@VulgarKitten Okay. You have fun in babytown frolic land. Given how far you've gone into not-true, there's not even a point discussing it any further.

@VulgarKitten said in Kushiel's Debut:

You came at me in a scene

Er, no. Lara came over to Lili's house and got in her face. Lili reacted poorly. I said nothing about the OOC spat to anyone until I got paged by Stan asking me if I knew you were bitching to anyone with an ear. Then the same thing, from Barnabas. I told them both what really happened and kind of wigged out because the ooc shittalking was a bit surprising/uncomfortable making. When we were chatting after the fact I did apologize that Lili reacted in a way that you found not fun, because the character was raw. You didn't just politely ask to FTB, either. You got in my virtual face about how wrong Lili's reactions were and how bad I was because you didn't enjoy that type of RP. After instigating it.

Not the way it appeared to a group of us Dunlins who were excluded, despite asking to be included.

Bboard posts detailing when the scenes were, how people could get involved, and what people could do were on the bboard regularly. If there were specific things that people were being excluded from I can guarantee it was coming from Spider, not me. She was leaving me out of the big Dunlin stuff, too -- so I went off and played metaplot because whatever.

Is this all you've got?

Yes. Because what you're saying is seriously not even close to true.

@VulgarKitten said in Kushiel's Debut:

Funny. A bunch of people said the same about you. Weird how that works. I think the exact phrasing was 'control freak with the tendency to bring IC to the OOC when it relates to relationships gone awry'. This particular situation (afaik) has nothing to do with that particular character trait. It seemed unnecessary to mention it but if you want to get into that kind of drama I can play.

Save that...this doesn't even have anything to do with the issue you and I had. Like. I think you're genuinely misremembering here. You came at me OOC because my character was an IC bitch about something. You had OOC issues with my PC's IC behavior and completely lost your shit.

As for getting people involved on TR, there were plenty of people bitching because you (and the others) were doing the exact opposite.

That's great. I didn't make everybody happy, the way I did things didn't. The fact of the matter is that I put a great deal of effort into trying to include people. Seriously. Open-to-everyone scenes every other weekend covering Metaplot 101, then sharing any new information people had. Me plot-hoarding and being exclusive is literally the furthest thing from the truth. You can bitch all day about how it was a bad effort or that I should have done something else instead, but you seriously cannot truthfully say I excluded people. There was a total of one person that was, due to their IC behavior, ICly not allowed to come to the meetings. One.

You left in a dramatic fashion because things weren't going your way, kind of like this situation. I remember you complaining to me about it, back when I thought we'd legit buried that hatchet.

Are you...just smoking crack? Do you seriously not remember this stuff and are just making things up to sound better? You're seriously going to...holy crap, woman. Do you have me mixed up with someone else in your head? I mean, I know you know I played Lili, but I think you're confusing Lili-stuff with other stuff. There's no other logical explanation here because you're so far off base. I left, after weeks of arguing with staff, triggered by Spider's treatment of Treya as a player. I have since had every single staffer involved in that situation with me apologize profusely about their behavior and how poorly handled the whole thing was, but that they were at the time so caught up with Spider-BS that they didn't realize it.

You were staff. You shared your grievances. This person was staff. They shared your grievances because your grievances were part of their grievances. It's the same thing.

Content and context are important. Period.