They turned their wrath to Marilyn Manson.
Well, one out of eleventy-billion ain't bad.
The problem is they turned it on his music, and not him as a person.
ETA: Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
They turned their wrath to Marilyn Manson.
Well, one out of eleventy-billion ain't bad.
The problem is they turned it on his music, and not him as a person.
ETA: Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
@il-volpe said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
@ortallus What they really want is a cataloguing librarian. Which is particularly ghastly, because while not all autistics are cataloging librarians, cataloging librarians are kinda notorious for being autistic more often than not.
Oh, after the post I saw about a Netflix show asking for photographers to work for free, I wouldn't touch anything Netflix has to do with a 10 foot pole. (See my post here)
@surreality said in Action/Super-Spy Style MU:
Something like this sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
I have two suggestions, though each has its own drawback.
Modern era setting -- we all know it, people can play with modern tech, etc. Drawback: it's going to be hard to prevent politics from coming up, and potentially starting the kind of OOC arguments and hostilities you probably won't want on your game.
Historical setting, even if it's fairly recent history. Example: Cold War 1980s. Tech level isn't so vastly different that people will not be able to understand it or wrap their brains around it, even if they were born in the 90s or later. Plenty of us lived through this, too. Drawback: History means "OOC homework", and some people are so gadget focused in their daily life that they can't live without these things as part of the casual day-to-day (rather than as their special spytech gear they can't always use openly), and these things may lose you some people in the process.
(And no, I promise, this is not just me loving the 80s! It's just the most obvious recent history example that stands out.)
Do a modern setting, but in a "West Wing" style. "Mr President" is the president, or "Jack Sparrow", and nobody talks about real world politics.
Heck, better yet, start the game on an election year, ICly, and have two candidates, and run plots about who gets elected.
Not to beat a dead horse on the whole VG thing, but I was actually the reason she made an entire channel that was supposed to be "off the books", anything goes, no holds barred, fight with anyone etc. Then VG banned me for talking about her attitude on it. xD
And a week later, she was messaging me asking me to come back. Seems that was sort of her thing. Chasing people off, then begging them to come back.
I struggle with mental illness myself. I get it. It's hard. But know your limitations, and let someone else interact with the playerbase. VG has no business talking to anyone ever, as an admin.
@ortallus I love Sense8 with the power of a thousand suns. I know at least one person on here hates it because they always make a point to talk about how awful they think it is when it comes up, but I can't remember who. BUT I LOVE IT.
I think it's one of the smartest bits of television for a long time. Asks a lot of questions, has amazing characters, with amazing actor chemistry ("Not since Firefly have we seen" comes to mind...), amazing cinematography.
The only thing that could possibly be held against it is the more adult content, and the bigotry of so many people. Which is a damn shame. =(
@surreality said in Internet Attacks? Why?:
@duckula I read a lot about the case (and have on the trend in general since I became aware of it a few years ago). Yes, there are people like that.
The majority of them frighten me more, though: they're kids as young as 13, and they think it's going to be a harmless prank.
People are much, much more likely to do something they consider is likely to be a harmless prank -- even if this is anything but the actual reality of the situation -- than something they expect will involve a risk to life and limb.
That's why the people in denial about how dangerous this is are horrifying.
I've been saying since I first heard of this trend that it needs to be cracked down on, hard, and those who are doing it need to be charged with something like 2nd degree attempted manslaughter. Definitely a felony charge.
Mind you, I don't think jailing them is necessarily the answer, as people in jail/prison just meet other criminals and learn tricks to being better criminals.
However, there needs to be shown to be severe penalties. If a child commits the act, then on their parents. If an adult, then throw the book at them hard. Make them take awareness classes, do community service, pay steep fines (including restitution to the people they swatted on).
If people figured they were going to have to give money to someone they didn't like, then maybe they wouldn't do it. =P
Other tangent:
Y'know, I was just thinking, properly done, I think a Fallout MUD based on CoffeeMUD could be amazing. Maybe with some fiddling.
@admiral 100% disagree. That's your bias showing.
So you liking it so much means your bias is showing?
No. I listed actual things that were good about it. He's saying that the only reason it was popular is "X".
In my experience, anyone who uses the term "SJW" is someone who's a bigot, or likes to be an asshole for the sake of being an asshole, and doesn't like being called on it.
@deviante Aye, I think I vaguely remember that one. But muse is da bomb.
@thugheaven said in Armageddon MUD:
@twinprince You're right, there is a separate forum for people that had complaints about the game. From looking at it though. There haven't really been any complaints on there for some time. I think someone paid attention to the complaints there and started making changes. So the lack of complaints is saying they have made some kind of commitment to making changes and they have.
As far as the 'fee fee' thing that wasn't what I meant. What I meant was, if you make a mistake as a result of you the player not knowing something, other players would likely respond to it IC. Players do take ICA=ICC very serious there. Your natural reaction is going to be something along the lines of "Oh shit! I didn't mean that!" For the most part people would accept that you didn't know and correct you IC. But it's up to you, to come out of your fee fees, and go with it. I even gave a very real example of that. You also have the alternative of breaking character and saying "I didn't know how to address a templar properly, sorry." or just asking out of character. I understood why it was taken that way and apologized for it. It wasn't my intention to come of as condescending at all.
ICA=ICC is fine, so long as you OOCly have the option of garnering IC information.
ICA=ICC is supposed to mean, "If your character shoots a guard, even an NPC guard, then they're going to be treated as a criminal".
Not "If you don't know where the water fountain is and you die, then tough luck."
@ortallus I love Sense8 with the power of a thousand suns. I know at least one person on here hates it because they always make a point to talk about how awful they think it is when it comes up, but I can't remember who. BUT I LOVE IT.
I can't stand people who do that.
I mean, it's okay to not like things, but don't be a dick about it.
Especially when the only real criticism they can come up with was "there was too much diversity, because that's real life, and I can't stand real life".
@firepuff said in Extra Life:
@ortallus In the past, I've played for the November game day. I wasn't aware of one this weekend.
https://www.extra-life.org/# for anyone interested.
It might only be PUBG?
Edit: It is, I just checked. All the same, if you play PUBG:
https://www.extra-life.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=cms.page&id=1414&eventID=541
@thugheaven said in Armageddon MUD:
@d-bone No I havenβt, so example please.
Make a character on Forgotten Edit: Kingdoms*. Will happen in the first day.
It's something that people tend to expect/associate with/be afraid of from RPI's. It's a very regular thing to be told "No ooc communication".
In fact, it's sort of a requirement for an RPI.
@cobaltasaurus said in Social Awkwardness?:
@fortydeuce I can't stand the sound of someone eating, or hawking a lugie. Basically wet mouth noises bother the fuck out of me.
Did you know there's an actual disorder? Not saying you have it, but legit....
http://mentalfloss.com/article/67614/hate-sound-people-chewing-you-might-have-misophonia
@thenomain said in Social Systems:
I posit that Leia won the social roll (intimidation) and gave up false intel to make the other player believe otherwise, or only partly won/lost it (did not betray her cause, but gave up something important).
There are several systems that go this way.
Both require players willing to do this, a GM, or Apocalypse World.
Lost the intimidate, succeeded on bluff?
@evilcabbage said in Armageddon MUD:
i mean you can find some of that stuff in helpfiles, but i'm not going to personally give you the digs on every single location to hunt every great beast in the entire world just because you rolled in as a 40 year old character.
Now you're just being melodramatic.
Every great beast in the world?
No.
The location of a few forests where I can get decent game?
Absolutely.
And besides that, do you not approve backgrounds to some extent? Or at least have creation guidelines?
@packrat said in Social Awkwardness?:
Personally I am in a weird place here, I am actually fairly extroverted IRL on the surface, I can chat with strangers without feeling self conscious, I can be charming, I regularly stand up in front of rooms full of people and deliver presentations to them for hours at a time.
Frankly I am probably overly chatty at times.
But I find socialising most of the time builds a steady stress meter and I increasingly often think about how I would so, so much rather be at home where I would likely be bored out of my skull but would be nestled securely in my safe space. I cannot last more than a few hours at most before being outright miserable.
This is a common misconception about introverts. People think that being an introvert means being virtually incapable of being social.
That is not introversion, it's social anxiety disorder. An introvert can absolutely be gregarious. It tends to be less likely, but it can happen.
Introversion does mean, as you said, that being in social situations costs you. In "Spoon theory" you would say that it costs you spoons to be social. An extrovert would say they regain spoons by BEING social. (Notice, spoon theory can be applied outside of having an illness). Extroverts on the other hand would regain spoons by being social.
There's a really good book by Susan Cain called "Quiet: The Power of Introverts In A World That Can't Stop Talking". She actually talks about the scientific research done regarding introverts and extroverts on a biological level, and it's some pretty fascinating stuff.
She also has a very interesting TED talk.
If you think you're an introvert, or even just know an introvert, or are an extrovert that wants to understand the difference, I highly recommend both.
@thatguythere said in Social Systems:
@ortallus said in Social Systems:
What he is saying there is that social systems shouldn't be included because they're not used for the majority of situations where mechanical arbitration is needed.
No it is not, my first post in this thread (which you replied to in fact) was replying to someone who said that Social skills should only be used on npcs. And I said that would be stupid because it would make them horribly cost inefficient compared to physical that could be used on both.
I am very much saying that social systems should be used in all appropriate situations rather against PCs or NPCs.
Then I misunderstood your intent when you said put this in:
"My question would be if social can only be used on NPCs but physical can be used on PCs and NPCs and they cost the same , you would be doing yourself a disservice to not buy physical over social.
Especially because in most RP environments a well written pose describing IC awkwardness will win you more friends than a poorly written one describing social awesomeness, so you can follow the mechanical rules pose your low social stats yet get the full benefit of having higher ones except for the occasional use on an NP"
I suppose by the time I said that you claimed social skills were useless, I was being a bit hyperbolic. I also see your point in saying that they should be usable on PC's. I'll even agree, with a caveat:
It should be an opposed check. You roll your influence I roll my resistance, and then we find a score. We find out not a "Yes" or "No" answer, but now you've got a good gauge on how much Player A influences Player B.
It is then up to Player B to translate what that means.
If Player B is a power gamer that refuses to make reasonable choices and RP appropriately, he'll find himself out of people to RP with, and a reputation, pretty darn quick.
If Player B is willing to make compromises that make a great story for everyone involved, then he's likely to get lots of good RP.
But if I'm ever on a place where someone says "My character tells you to drop your weapon" and then rolls intimidate, and there's no force powers or magic or other hoodoo behind it? Then I'm going to look at them and wonder, "Can I beat them to the draw? What's the situation? How intimidated am I really by the smurf with a nerf bat and 20 charisma telling me to drop my weapon? Yeah, no."
And if that's breaking rules, then it's not the place for me. It might be the place for you, and that's okay. But it's not the place for me.
And that's ultimately the big kicker. You'll never please all the people all the time. Find a system that you want to play or run, and play or run it.
@oldfrightful said in Armageddon MUD:
@Ortallus He could tell you or just link you this helpfile, which would be the equivalent, and this map for a rough idea. These are both things a newbie could reasonably stumble upon too, it's not very hard to find on the site. It's not actually secret information. When he says 'the digs' he probably means things like lairs, secret watering holes, super exact directions, etc. And like I said in my last post, it is super easy to learn about those things ICly. Your character would not necessarily know about them for being a 40 year old hunter, because a 40 year old hunter probably doesn't know everything there is to know about the super dangerous world. They got to 40, after all!
No, and I agree, but really I think people are splitting hairs.
Does that 40 year old hunter need to know where every hunting spot is?
No.
Does that 40 year old hunter need to know how not to make basic social faux pas that might get him killed?
Yes. Absolutely yes. And that includes going into the wrong neighborhood where he might get mugged.
@auspice said in Real World Peeves, Disgruntlement, and Irks.:
Just repaired the daily workhorse 'doesn't suck to wear for 12 hours' bra for the 2nd time in as many weeks.
Might be time to retire her.