Posts made by ThatGuyThere

Well off the game topic but if you are eating something that is just being called "fish" and referred to by the species of fish, it will most likely taste like ass, that is because it is likely the cheapest stuff they can find mashed together and breaded. so of course it is bad, not because fish are bad to eat but because you are eating the ocean equivalent of a hot dog.
I eat and enjoy many species of fish but if someone was offering "fish" I would decline in a heartbeat. Much like i would is someone offered me "land animal."

My backgrounds on games tend to be roughly a page. Enough to give a base for the character to start from but avoiding unnecessary detail, that is what IC conversations are for.
And this pretty much equates to both what I have in mind when i talk with a table top GM about the char I am making and what I expect a player in a table top to be able to give me. Not written out of course but in conversation during that first c-gen session.

@Kestrel
One thing I think you forget is that this place basically exists for bitching. Granted in current form it is far more constructive then past edition but it is still the offspring of WORA.
So yes most conversation here is in the negative it is most likely going to be like that for any game.
To address another point , you mentioned waiting until shit hits the fan to panic, while that is likely good advice you are also new to the MUSH side of things, a few (dozen) pages back i mentioned how grudges get carried over, but they are not the only things that do. People's experiences do as well, I would wager that those losing shit prematurely likely have been burned a few times in the past and are gun shy now. That is a normal reaction take a dog that gets mistreated and it takes a lot of work to accept that new people won't do the same. This is a basic animal reaction, and regardless of how we like to think we are advanced or above in most cases humans make the basic animal reactions to things.

@GirlCalledBlu
That may be true, but I am sure am not alone in wondering just how much that is worth.
Officially supported but against staff preference can mean a world of different things in this hobby.
You may be sincere but given what history has to show, (by this i mean of MU*s in general, nothing about you whom I know nothing about) I would not blame anyone for doubting.

@GirlCalledBlu
So you don't want people to split from the main group and do their own thing, instead they should stay in the main camp.
But it has been stated in the thread that the leader is a staff alt, that makes the arguments that it is not a players not being railroaded seem a bit disingenuous.

That runs a bit counter to my experience again only tabletop never MU*, I don't think we ever had a run that ended in a true double cross, there has often been shadiness on the sides but in the end each party lived up to the letter of the agreement though not necessarily the spirit.
Not to say things were always pleasant, we had a Johnson put out contracts on us in the current campaign after we completed the mission and he paid us. And he was justified we did exactly what he told us to just in a manner that completely hosed what his intent was.

@Roz
Thanks for the info. A part of me has to wonder if this decision was not at least partially motivates by Marvel/Disney not having movie rights to the X Franchise and wanting to get those characters more firmly in the Avengers non-mutant side of things.

I often forget the whole runner part of ShadowRun, honestly none of the campaigns I have played in have really been about a group of traditional runner. The first I played in back in first edition was basically a gang protecting their turf and from there we have done many things. the current campaign is probably the closest to a standard runner group but honestly we are closer to the A-Team then a runner group since we tend to spend about as much time checking out the job to make sure they are worth doing then we do doing the job. Of course when ever we have spare IC time or cash we use it to go after the corp all the PC has a bg reason to hate.
Shadowrun is very Noir without ever looking Noir if that makes any sense. Maybe call it Neon Noir.

I have a question since I stopped reading Marvel before this retcon, who are Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's parents now?
Did it go back to being the pair of Golden Age heroes, Whizzer and Miss America (Robert and Madeline Frank in civilian IDs) or Magda and some other non-magneto dude or somebodies else entirely?

@tangent
Yeah it is temporary, if you are not fun to rp with you will quickly find yourself out of RP regardless of the base popularity of the character.
But even as a temporary situation it is a nice boost since finding early in time at a game is often a make or break thing for people sticking around.

@Thenomain
For me it is about scale of PC power. If you look at the main characters of a Gibson novel they are still very mortal, there is the feeling that while they can accomplish great things they are still ordinary people. CP2020 felt this way to me as well. Shadowrun even at straight from c-gen level has the feel of being more then ordinary, maybe not the baddest ass around but a cut above the majority of the faceless population.
and to second @Lithium I loved the depth of the history when Earthdawn was still part of the some continuity.

One thing that I think deserves mention is that while i think there is room form Canon and original characters on a game, canon characters definitely have an advantage, not in IC power but in getting the opportunity to rp.
Most Canon characters come in with not only IC connections but also OOC fans among the player base. While people will play with both and there is definitely opportunity to find rp and shine as an OC, Canon characters do have it easier, whenever I have apped a canon character even during the app process I have gotten a lot of pages from folks wanting to set up rp, often more then I could handle in a couple of weeks of steady rp after c-gen. OCs get some offers but not as many.

@Thenomain said in Shadowrun: Modern:

@ThatGuyThere

Then I understand, and yes you've hit on a lot of where I would go with it, but Cybergen (CP2040?) introduced AR as a major power set years before Shadowrun, and I assume it's part of our future. Corps vs. Municipalities? Going on today. Sure, but is that what makes it Shadowrun? Or is that another aspect of its Cyberpunk underpinnings?

I think what makes it Shadowrun is how it then incorporates the fantasy elements, Orc Underground gets the name because of the fact it is where a lot of the folks who change into something not pretty go to forge a new life. And also how it continues to tell the story of the Sixth World (in world term for the SR setting) you do have elven wizards sharing the stage with the gritty gang member who can barely afford basic weapons and ware.
Now granted because of personal preference I never make a mage/shaman, and would prefer magic not be around but magic is part of what makes Shadowrun what is it.

@Arkandel said in Marvel: 1963:

@Kanye-Qwest said in Marvel: 1963:

The issue is: I came out to help with all these crises and in the end Superman just punches a nuclear bomb to death and we all go for shwarma.

But that's been the case in all MU* since forever. Are level 5 characters redundant because there are level 9 characters around?

But isn't power level parity one for the big arguments of catch up xp policy and the various hard feelings toward Dinos in a lot of WoD games?
I am of the opinion that online line power discrepancy doesn't matter much, but then on superhero games I also tend to play non-powered Canon characters.

@Coin
Well for a while in continuity at least Meta-humanity was somewhat genetically based. Not the having of powers but the potential to develop them when the stimuli occurred. That was the whole reasoning behind the Dominators wanting to take over the Earth in the Invasion crossover, to get their hands on all the potential genetic bonanza.
Granted that was well before the New 52 so no longer in continuity but I thought if was an interesting comparison to the Marvel mutants thing.

@Thenomain
Fourth edition had wireless everywhere and you really did not need to ever go wired, you could if you wanted but most things were assumed to be wireless, and tech in general seemed to me more advanced from a modern point then the cyberpunk view of what the future would be.
Fourth edition also dealt a fair amount with governmental politics at least some of the adventure paths, (seasons I think they call them but basically a same thing as the Pathfinder adventure path a collection of modules that form a whole) Now corporations played a huge role in said politics but things like the Orc Underground seeking official district status where drive my non-coprorate entities even if impacted and influenced by them. Same with the Fall of Brackhaven (Governor of Seattle) while corps played a role if was presented much more as a governmental political inspired plot rather then a corp power play.
Where if you look at earlier editions or other Cyperpunk games, most notably Cyberpunk 2020, non-corporate power structures get a mention but rarely much of a focus or meta-plot spotlight.

Honestly I would think it would look a lot like fourth edition. Fifth edition walked back a lot of things to be more traditionally cyberpunk. Fourth was pretty far from cyberpunk but then again cyberpunk is not really a modern thing, it was a reaction to the emergence of multinationals and technology being everywhere. Neither of those things really generates a reaction anymore because they have been fait accompli for awhile now.

@Derp
Exactly I think on of my all- time favorite comic fights involved most attacks missing.
It one of the early fights between Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow and they clash for a bit with neither being able to really get a shot in on the other, granted the job of that scene was to build the rivalry and reader anticipation for the bigger fight later instead of providing a conclusive winner but it did that job brilliantly.

@vanderlylle
I remember going to the wiki and seriously considering apping a Warden there til i heard Spider was involved. This was during it's modern day phase.

@Kestrel said in The 100: The Mush:
please don't, as an avid basketball player / warm-fuzzy TSer, come over to my baseball pitch to accuse me of

Sorry but as my name says I have to be That Guy at times, in baseball a pitch is something your throw, you play on a field, a diamond, or a ballpark.