I have a buddy who has been with the same job for years and has been fiddling with his deductions the whole time.
All so he could get to this year.
Where he's owed $0.01.
And is having the IRS mail him the check.I had to shed a tear at the glory of it all.
Brilliant! And it reminds me of this:
Enjoy.
I don't mean to file my taxes last-minute every year, but I do.
The software I use decided not to update, so I went to update my OS, which decided not to update. I eventually sorted this out, but I do this to myself every year. Why? Reasons, no doubt.
That I owe $410 (or even one red cent) to the Feds is enough to set me off, in the way that I have nothing major in my life that is actually important setting me off.
AGE, by Green Ronin. I'm still not sure how I feel about the system.
@Lithium said in What RPG SYSTEM do you want to play on a Mu*?:
I actually like the system for 5e ShadowRun, I'd like to see the system hacked to be a different theme. I'd love to see another sci fi game, or a western game, which is based on the system. It'd be easy to hack and make functional really for just about any theme.
I'm having as hard a time understanding this new system as I was understanding nWoD Mage (but not CoD Mage, for some reason).
@faraday said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
@Three-Eyed-Crow and @WTFE In yet another example of why I often feel like a visiting alien among these boards, I actually have extremely fond memories of Electric Soup. It was started by a very good friend of mine from B5MU days and I regarded it as a success while it lasted. And frankly, if a forum is going to die because people can't discuss things constructively without being jerks and belittling each other, I can live with that.
Part of the problem, as noted, was what was considered "not constructive" was handled with a bit of a steel fist and/or sledgehammer, making the place ironically less open than it wanted to be, than it should have been. Sure, this means that the ideology wasn't abused by creative trolls, but I felt that it was abused by the people who were there to uphold it.
I'm not saying that it was a bad place, or that your time there wasn't genuine, but I don't think it was the place that people have been saying that Soapbox should be, and I don't think Electric Soup was the place it should have been.
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@Ghost said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
Yeah, because shit goes from okay to NOT OKAY in the blink of an eye around here sometimes.
"Around here"? I've asked that question far more on games than on here, so I'm going to call Confirmation Bias -- yes, on both of us. Kudos to @Miss-Demeanor for pointing out how specifically your complaints are not hobby-specific.
In catching up from a day and a half on this thread, I'm going to guess that your complaints can be boiled down to The Apology Thread in particular, and specifically one person in it.
I understand being bitter that a thread has gotten out of your control and wanting to regain understanding, wanting to get everyone on the same page, but when you put yourself out in public and on, I dunno, let's call it some kind of Soapbox, you open yourself to commentary from those passing by.
Looking at the +1s (I believe this thread is before the -1s were removed), people agreed with you and @Miss-Demeanor about equally. Remember, I believe in "the silent majority", I figure that most people who want to comment here don't want to open themselves to criticism and will use that +1 as meaning "I agree" and nothing more. I use it as a metric to mean how much I should pay attention to the post, to actually read it.
In the Apology Thread, these posts were most upvoted:
I'm stopping here. I thought I'd get about 5 posts out of this, but this thread has really split opinions in Soapbox, but I would like to note, in the way usually used for yelling: The opinions were very passionately split.
Looking at this thread, I cannot believe that Soapbox is any one thing but passionate. I see humor, understanding, frustration, caring, and the odd insult all being +1'd, being thanked, someone saying "yes, this represents how I'm feeling right now".
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Final note: If you want to now remove the +1 you gave me before I finished this unexpectedly long edit, Ghost, I don't blame you. No hard feelings.
@Alzie said in Thenomain's Playlist:
You should list The Reach under Ironman Challenge where it rightly belongs.
I helped start Dark Metal. The Reach was old hat by twenty years later.
@EmmahSue said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
Also, HR says he's working on the Stanley Parable achievement for MSB. He's not likely to rejoin anytime soon (I believe someone wondered, up above somewhere).
ES
If we don't see him in three more years (the achievement is five), I will personally drive down there and have lunch with you all. That isn't a threat, that's a promise.
@Jim-Nanban said in Thenomain's Playlist:
Wow, are we talking late 90's DarkMetal??
Yes. I helped start it and played Rad, an utterly stupid name that was short for "Signpost At The Crossroads", his Silent Strider name. That crossroads was SONGS, the San Onofre Nuclear Generator Service. Radiation. Rad. Also surfer beach.
@Apu said in Thenomain's Playlist:
Was the LarryGhost game Persistence of Memory?
Yes, thank you. I played Zoe Kincaid, who later became the name for the person I pretended to be when playing women characters. (Note: Saved so much headache doing that.)
Zoe was one of the few characters I deeply enjoyed playing.
@Woragarten said in What RPG SYSTEM do you want to play on a Mu*?:
World of Synnibar because Theno said no F mentions.
Well people already like RIFTS....
I have outlines in my head about how I'd code a The Strange setting, as I think it's more approachable than Numernera. But yes, I like the system and would love to play it.
@Alamias said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
@Arkandel Blame @Thenomain and @Miss-Demeanor. They mentioned 7th Sea.
Because we are awesome.
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@Ghost said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
Just...Some people like to skew shit either on purpose, or through nasty habit.
There is a point where people have to stop just wishing that things are different and start pushing change for the better. I think that you are at this point. Name names. You don't have to be a jackass for defending your views or pointing out the fallacies of "popular clique-heavy posters", but you've been dancing around this for your last three or possibly four posts. It seems that you think that it's important, so say something.
I stopped reading the Hog Pit for a reason. I want to expect more of others and people demand more out of me, and that just isn't going to happen there. It should happen here, but apparently @Ganymede doesn't care. Clearly everyone's talking about him.
@Ghost said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
- The creation of cliques centered around board veterans, and the weird maintaining of ooc reputation through board posts alone
Man, when do I get my clique?
- Mob-justice, valid or invalid, gets taken to the boards where anyone unethical with a slightly convincing argument can use the board as a social dominance tool
I think this has been answered: This isn't a Wora culture item, but a human culture item.
- Promotion of the player over the character, thus expanding the assumption that all characters are the player
I can argue this at length, and will continue to do so. If you think this is poisonous behavior, I would love to have this discussion, as a discussion, in the Creative Forums. That is, I think you are wrong.
- The ooc connection Nexus for players to spread gossip, which is usually heavily one-sided, and build that into the community's network.
You know how I said I don't have a clique? Part of it is because I am loud as fuck when I think someone is doing just this. Someone earlier in the thread laughed about the idea of defending the "invisible minority", but those people exist and several of the top posters are willing and able to either explosively (me) or subtly (@Ganymede) or a mixture of both (@surreality) or Socraticmethodly (@Arkandel) point out the bullshit in attempt to open discussion and willingness to open minds.
@Tinuviel said in Mass Effect: Andromeda: The Thread:
@Thenomain That's where you're going wrong, then. Singularity + Shotgun to the Face.
Pull + Throw has been a lot of fun. I am discovering that Biotics really sucks against armor (note to @Ganymede here for RPG consideration), while my Combat/Tech build chewed through both armor and shields like it was made of candy. Maybe I'm going to have a lot of Drak in my party.
@Sparks said in What RPG SYSTEM do you want to play on a Mu*?:
Are you talking system here, or setting, @Thenomain?
@Thenomain said in What RPG SYSTEM do you want to play on a Mu*?:
clarification: You could say "Pathfinder" even if what you mean is "Pathfinder in modern day". Setting is often tied to system, but I want to know what system mechanics you want to play online.
I hope that answers the question. In cases where system and setting cannot be untangled, assume that saying, say, "Exalted" assumes the link, but do it because you would enjoy playing the Exalted System online.
It's okay to not be excited to play a system. For setting, we have another thread; system is the only question that hasn't been asked.
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@Arkandel said in What RPG SYSTEM do you want to play on a Mu*?:
Does this help? I'm not asking rhetorically, I don't know if it's what you want out of this thread.
My purpose is mainly that we as a board in general have taken to complaining that "X" mechanics are broken in, well, mainly WoD games. But broken mechanics is going to happen on every RPG-based game.
The kind of game you think people would enjoy online is helpful, but I can get the same flavor of information by asking, "What systems do you not care would be broken if you played them online?"
I enjoy nWoD and CoD online far more than I enjoyed oWoD (aka cWoD) online. I probably would never play a Classic or v20 WoD Mu* again, even though I think Classic WoD has the more engaging setting. The tabletop-minded vagueness of Classic WoD rules simply ruins it for me.
I think Apocalypse World would be a fantastic online RPG system, and would love introducing more people to it. I even think Fate Core would answer that endless "what do you do day to day" question that a lot of people ask, if only I could get people to accept the core Aspects premise of Fate Core.
These are mechanics/system concerns, not setting concerns. That's what I want.
@Misadventure said in BSG: Unification:
What do the humanoid Cylons look like?
c.f. BSG: Razor. At the point this game takes place the attempts were very poor quality, as the citizens from the original Earth hadn't encountered the Cylons. End of line.
Everyone has a different idea what "simple" means. Is WoD/CofD simple? Think of games you've played online and tabletop, and that you think it would be hella-fun online.
Yes, I said "hella".
Rule #2 is, to me, the key: You think it would work for you and others on a Mu* setup.
We have gone over and over many times how WoD doesn't work perfectly online, and then I said something in another thread like, "I'd rather broken games people'd love to play than perfect games that people wouldn't."
I want to know what people would play online, knowing that the act of playing them online would change the game, or even break the game. That's why I'm stressing the system of the game. I know if people love a theme or setting enough they will put up with a lot, but we have two threads about those already. "What system would you love to play on a Mush" is my question to that trifecta.
@Cupcake said in What RPG SYSTEM do you want to play on a Mu*?:
Cybergeneration!
That's just me being sassy. I feel like no one but me has ever heard of it.
I still have my signed copy somewhere.
In Cyberpunk 203x, there is a paragraph that roughly says, "This small carbon plague broke out briefly in a very small part of California and nobody really cared about it." Alas.
So we've had "what DO you play" and "what do you WANT to play", and so I'm asking "what SYSTEM do you want to play?"
No poll, but a few rules:
Lurkers and one-word posts welcome, though if you think the system might be oblique please provide a link.
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clarification: You could say "Pathfinder" even if what you mean is "Pathfinder in modern day". Setting is often tied to system, but I want to know what system mechanics you want to play online.
@Miss-Demeanor said in MSB: The meta-discussion:
@Thenomain You know, I have never played a 7th Sea game, but i have had so many friends tell me how amazing it is that I would absolutely try it. Also... pirates. God I would kill for a good pirate game. I WANT TO BE A PIRATE DAMMIT.
Sadly the new version of 7th Sea kind of sucks for simple roll-and-resolve mechanics, which I think is why people won't try Fate Core, or worse, won't push Fate Core when they do play it. (note: Fate Core is best when your character is pushed.) Maybe if we used the older, but somewhat broken version of 7th Sea. (If you play Arx, you already know what aspects feel broken, but they've simplified some of the things that can really break it--magic and swordsmanship schools).
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Tomato, tomato. Roll & Keep is the core of both systems, but having never read Lot5R I can't comment further. Besides, if people want to get their Asian Pretendy Game-Time on, I suspect they would be far more likely to gravitate toward the Exalted power fantasy.
Roll & Keep itself is, I think, a beautiful core mechanic, but the way that Arx implemented it creates an artificial rarity curve based on--you know what, doesn't matter. 7th Sea does something similar, but not to the same extreme. The extreme that 7th Sea breaks its own core system has to do with magic and swordsmanship. Mind you, these can be beautiful brokenness, and I for one would welcome a broken system that people want to play over a perfect one that people wouldn't.
